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JoshP06

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The books I currently have:

1. Stars of Magic
2. Mark Wilson's Complete Course
3. The Magic book by Harry Lorayne
4. Modern Coin Magic by Bobo
5. RRTCM
6. Expert Card Technique
7. The Expert at the Card Table
8. Card Manipulations by Hugard
9. Cy Endfield's Entertaining Card Magic
10. RCT by Marlo
11. Card College Light
12. CC Lighter
13. CC Lightest
14. Strong Magic by Ortiz
15. Designing Miracles by Ortiz
16. Magic and Showmanship

Didn't realize I had that many books on magic. HAHA.

Anyway... I do plan on getting the regular Card College. Hopefully Vernon material at some point too.

Anybody have recommendations in terms of other books I should buy?
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Hi Josh,

Did you ever do a post introducing yourself in the appropriate area?

It might be easier for folks to recommend next steps if you give basics about how/when/why you got into magic and what your areas of interest are.

At a glance, though, it looks like you already have more than enough material. How are you doing on working through it?

Which of the books you listed have you gotten the most out of so far?
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Add The Stars of Magic. It's a classic.

Also, The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings and The Complete Works of Derek Dingle. Uh oh.. you'll need the four volumes of Apocalypse and The Paul Harris trilogy too. 

I'm going to stop now before the cost gets over $500.

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 ONLY MY APOCALYPSE, JAW DROPPERS TWO, AND FINALLY!, SPECIAL EFFECTS, LORAYNE: The Classic Collection, Vols. 2, 3.4 and 5.   You really have no idea as to what you're missing out on.
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I'm going to stop now before the cost gets over $500.

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Yeah. What the heck Mike? Jeez. [smile]

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The books you have are enough. Period. I would suggest that as your experience grows you may be drawn towards specialties and at that point you will want to buy more.

For example you may choose to study gambling routines and sleights. At that point, invest in Forte's new books. Perhaps mentalism will trip your trigger?

A lot of folks with big libraries never read most of the books, or read once and done. There's no excuse nowadays with reviews, forums and complete indexes available to invest in duds. So do like you have and ask knowledgeable folk.
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I always go back and look at Ortiz's Strong Magic..that is a great book!

I also think Darwin Ortiz is a closet mentalist lol. Also, I did the Mark Wilson Course as a kid and learned a lot.

Take RayJ's advice!!!!!!!

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Based on what you currently have, I would recommend More Card Manipulations and Encyclopedia of Card Tricks, both by Jean Hugard.

They are both cheap, they contain a wide variety of standard material, and they will round out your core Hugard collection.

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JoshP06

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Alright, sounds good.
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JoshP06

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I really appreciate all of your suggestions.
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Hi Josh,

I agree with RayJ, in that you already have more than enough books already.  Have you read through all of them yet?  How many tricks are you performing from those books?  Don’t make the mistake of accumulating a large library of books without getting any practical value out of them.

That said, I do acknowledge that it’s easier said than done!

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You could make a few careers out of your list alone. 

That being said I HAVE to plug the Paul Harris AoA Trilogy. It changed the way I think about magic and has one of my favorite bits. Paraphrasing: "We can take our art seriously without taking ourselves so seriously." Everything in those books is explained SO well. A huge % of the material is doable. I later bought the much hyped True Astonishments dvd set. That's the last dvd I ever bought. The books beat that 100X fold in my opinion.

If I had another set I would push on someone it would be the Books of Wonder. It's Tommy Wonder. His essays are worth more that his tricks if you ask me. His tricks are absolutely fantastic but Tommy Wonder is willing to go farther for some effects than most of us mere mortals can handle. Don't get me wrong, there is certainly usable stuff in there but I wonder how many have actually used his pulley/counterweight system. If you like Strong Magic and Designing Miracles you need the Books of Wonder. 

You have things on your list that I'm ashamed to admit that I don't own, but I should. Magicians are spoiled for choice when is comes to good literature but we only have so much time and money. We are also bombarded with trash filler at times. Choose wisely.

I gladly admit that I bought the Forte books when they came out and I don't regret it for a second. The really ARE worth the hype despite the flaws. I think it's the first new thing I bought since Ortiz's Lessons in Card Mastery. I have been doing my first read through for months. No exaggeration. Believe the hype. It's not just 1100 pages. it's 1100 pages of non-hand holding dense stuff. 

I can grab a book off my shelf and "Holy crap! How did I miss that the first time."   Sometimes it's because I wasn't up to snuff technically the first time but most of the time I just missed the idea completely. There is lots of joy in that for me personally.

I'm sorry for the rant. I'll shaddap now haha.

All the best to you, 
-JD-

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Thanks JD.

That's a thorough response.  I can't knock you on that.

I've tried to aim for the best of the best when it comes to buying magic literature.

I don't want to buy a book that would end up being useless when I could've invested in something of much higher quality.

Also, I love Tommy Wonder. I've seen a few clips of his performances on YouTube. Absolutely great. Also a fan of Bill Malone's style. Love the mix of comedy and magic. Can't discount the two giants of Marlo and Vernon either.

Josh
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I have
Erdnase
Vernon Book of Magic
Cardician
Marlo in Spades
Memories Are Made of this - Aronson (want to try out this stacking thing).

I watched Harry Lorayne’s 90th Birthday Party video and a lot of very famous magicians mentioned the influence Close-Up Card Magic had on them, so I am ordering that as my next book.

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You definitely have enough material. 
But I will make one recommendation: "Magic and Meaning" by Eugene Burger and Bob Neale. 
That book is a game changer and will make you look at your magic differently. 
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Magic and Meaning was a seminal book for me, I definitely recommend locating a copy as it'll give you much food for thought...
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I agree on the value of Magic and Meaning. It's divided into 20-30 page segments that can be read independently of each other. I found that I just kept reading. It's excellent.

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Expert Card Technique is on of my favorite books

You could also add Leading with Your Head by Gary Kurtz.  All about movement and misdirection. His notion on active and relaxed states alone is worth getting it



























































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Alright. I'll definitely look into these suggestions.

Thanks a lot.

Can never stop learning, that is for sure.
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