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Bill Guinee

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I have been performing a version of "Out of thiis World" for the last 40 years or so. In the version, you can use a borrowed deck and have the spectator shuffle it. Then you fan the cards with the faces towards you and pull out cards for the fist half of the trick, before changing the index cards (red and black) and handing it to the spectator to deal himself. You don't have to do the entire deck (I usually do about half).

Here's my problem. For years I have thought this was Harry Lorayne's "Out of this Universe." I recently have been re-reading "Close Up Card Magic" and discovered that it is not that effect at all. I have no idea where I learned this trick or who to credit for it.

Please help me figure it out. Remember that the clue is that I have been doing it a LONG time. If you are thinking of something that came out in a publication in the last 20 years or so, that could not be where I learned the trick.

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Does this help. Paul Curry?

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/search?keyword=Out+of+this+world
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Bill, sounds like U.F. Grant’s “Nu Way Out of this World.” This has always been one of my favorites. Eugene Burger was a big fan of this m this too (he performs it in his first Penguin Lecture).
My face up OOTW (“Back to the launching pad”) is based on the UF Grant method.
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Hi Bill,

I’ve been doing OOTW exactly the way you described it for many, many years, too.  It's definitely my preferred method (i.e. with a spectator-shuffled deck).  

Don’t know where I learnt it, but Mbreggar might be right about U.F. Grant’s “Nu Way OOTW.”  (I did own that manuscript a long time ago).  

There is a clever final reveal where you simply flip the remaining packet of cards in your right hand over to match the tabled index cards.  This may or not be U.F. Grant’s … but it could also be a subtlety added by Harry Lorayne.


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Bill Guinee

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I think we have a winner. The U.F. Grant Nu Way is listed (on the website provided by RayJ) as having been published in Harry Lorayne's "My Favorite Card Tricks." I am certain that I used to own this book (though it may now surreptitiously have found its way into my brother Tim's collection). That would explain why I remembered it as a Harry Lorayne trick and thought it must be Out of This Universe. Unfortunately, because of my dastardly brother, this will remain circumstantial evidence as I no longer have the book and can't check to be sure. Unless, of course, I fork over $10 to re-purchase the book in e-book form on Harry's website. Thanks for the help, guys.
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Bill, I think the actual manuscript is still for sale for only a couple bucks at Lybrary.com
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Bill Guinee

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Thanks, I will check it out.
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Bill, I think the actual manuscript is still for sale for only a couple bucks at Lybrary.com


Indeed it is, Mbreggar!  For only 3 bucks!

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Originally Posted by Bill Guinee
I have been performing a version of "Out of thiis World" for the last 40 years or so. In the version, you can use a borrowed deck and have the spectator shuffle it. Then you fan the cards with the faces towards you and pull out cards for the fist half of the trick, before changing the index cards (red and black) and handing it to the spectator to deal himself. You don't have to do the entire deck (I usually do about half).

Here's my problem. For years I have thought this was Harry Lorayne's "Out of this Universe." I recently have been re-reading "Close Up Card Magic" and discovered that it is not that effect at all. I have no idea where I learned this trick or who to credit for it.

Please help me figure it out. Remember that the clue is that I have been doing it a LONG time. If you are thinking of something that came out in a publication in the last 20 years or so, that could not be where I learned the trick.

Well?

Impromptu Out of This World- My Favorite Card Tricks, Harry Lorayne
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Bill Guinee

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Ok, you guys were right on. The trick is basically the U.F. Grant Nu Way OOTW as re-presented with some nice additional ideas in Lorayne's  My Favorite Card Tricks under the title "Impromptu Out of This World." I have not yet re-looked at the Lorayne book, but I am pretty sure he added the method of handing the deck to the spectator to deal after the first batch of cards. Thanks for all the help, guys.
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Again, if you have a chance, check out Eugene Burger performing "Nu Way ..." on his first Penguin Lecture.
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Thanks, Mbreggar
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