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Hi Fellas,

I just learned that the Magician's Forum Linking Ring will be issued in February!

For that reason, I decided to try and become a member of IBM.

I'm happy to say that my application has been accepted! (As long as no one objects)

Rudy

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We are happy to acknowledge receipt of your application for membership in the International Brotherhood of Magicians.  We hope you will enjoy your association with our organization.

Our Bylaws and Standing Rules provide that your name be published in one issue of our official periodical, THE LINKING RING before your membership becomes final.  Should no one object to your application, you will become a member in good standing.  This process takes approximately ninety days.

If you have applied for an Active or Junior Membership, you will receive THE LINKING RING each month, commencing with the one that has your name published.  The listing of your name in THE LINKING RING is still required even if you apply for a type of membership that does not include The Linking Ring. 

Your name will appear in the March issue of the LINKING RING.  The mailing of your membership packet will take place by the end of April.  As long as there are no objections to you becoming a member, your membership will become final.  If there are objections to you becoming a member, we reserve the right to cancel your membership after an investigation into the objections of your membership.

If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions, please feel free to contact us at the numbers and the addresses below.


Thank you, Rudy, for your application and for your interest in the greatest magic organization in the world, THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF MAGICIANS.

 

Magically,

Sindie Richison

Sindie Richison, International Executive Secretary

I.B.M. Headquarters Office

 



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Congratulations Rudy.

I’ve wrestled with joining a recognised club/organisation for sometime but haven’t. This has sparked me to re-investigate the options.
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Congratulations Rudy, glad to hear
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As a former member of the IBM, I'm happy you decided to join. Personally I will not join any organization that would have me as a member. Seriously, we had an active ring, Ring 1, and The Linking Ring mag was great and I assume still is.
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Congratulations Rudy and welcome to the IBM. Are you planning on being active in your local Ring?  You would be an asset to them!  Ours (Ring 90) is pretty active and sponsors lectures on a regular basis. You may also get some to start participating here in TMF.  [thumb]


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Great news, Rudy! The Linking Ring is a terrific magazine! It’s got a great history section and at least two “superb” columnists!!!!
Also, you get access to the complete run of The Linking Ring plus other publications through the IBM‘s connection with Ask Alexander.  
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Congratulations Rudy and welcome to the IBM. Are you planning on being active in your local Ring?  You would be an asset to them!  Ours (Ring 90) is pretty active and sponsors lectures on a regular basis. You may also get some to start participating here in TMF.  [thumb]



Great question MagikDon.

I’m friends with a few magicians here in the Portland area, and we get together occasionally (not enough) but I don’t attend any of the meetings that are taking place here in the Northwest. Mostly because I live in Forest Grove and it’s quite a drive from here to Portland.

Is it possible for me to start a more local ring here in my neck of the woods?

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I’m friends with a few magicians here in the Portland area, and we get together occasionally (not enough) but I don’t attend any of the meetings that are taking place here in the Northwest. Mostly because I live in Forest Grove and it’s quite a drive from here to Portland.

Is it possible for me to start a more local ring here in my neck of the woods?


I am sure there is, if there is enough continuing support and commitment for one. I hear you about the distance problem......I don't attend many meetings because of the commute time involved. [frown] 
BTW: Nice announcement for International Magicians' Day 

Where do you get all your energy?



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Congratulations Rudy.

I’ve wrestled with joining a recognised club/organisation for sometime but haven’t. This has sparked me to re-investigate the options.


"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."  — Groucho Marx, not RayJ  [smile]

In spite of that...I'm not only an IBM member, but also the president of Ring #6.
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Congrats Rudy, we warned about the initiation.....
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"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."  — Groucho Marx, not RayJ  [smile]

In spite of that...I'm not only an IBM member, but also the president of Ring #6.


I didn't give the source because it has become a common enough line. BTW, good on you for stepping up to lead the Ring.

I visited the Ring 6 Facebook page and saw a pic of members. Seems a decidedly mature group. Are there younger members coming along?
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Great question MagikDon.

I’m friends with a few magicians here in the Portland area, and we get together occasionally (not enough) but I don’t attend any of the meetings that are taking place here in the Northwest. Mostly because I live in Forest Grove and it’s quite a drive from here to Portland.

Is it possible for me to start a more local ring here in my neck of the woods?


Congrats Rudy!  I'm all in favor of you being a member.

I just checked on http://www.magician.org and looked at the rings in Oregon.  It looks like there are two rings currently.
Ring 238 - Andrus/Vance Ring
Albany, Oregon
Ring 319 - The Lecture Ring
Eugene, Oregon

I believe they have some rules about starting a new ring somewhere on their site.  I remember some details from back in March 1999 when I joined the Ring 333 in Kalamazoo, MI.  To start a new ring, it had to be more than 50 miles away from another ring, and you had to get 10 members there as charter members (I was one of them).  A Territorial VP come in to do all the official procedure stuff.  Then, we were a club.

When I moved to Ohio, I found Ring 7 in Columbus and joined it.  This ring has been around for a while.  For 2 years I was VP, then President for 2 years, but I haven't been back for a while.

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Well, after learning more about the benefits of membership from Mike Powers at the Saturday Session, I followed Rudy's lead and took the plunge myself. 

Thanks for the nudge, guys!

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Congrats Rudy!  I'm all in favor of you being a member.

I just checked on http://www.magician.org and looked at the rings in Oregon.  It looks like there are two rings currently.
Ring 238 - Andrus/Vance Ring
Albany, Oregon
Ring 319 - The Lecture Ring
Eugene, Oregon

I believe they have some rules about starting a new ring somewhere on their site.  I remember some details from back in March 1999 when I joined the Ring 333 in Kalamazoo, MI.  To start a new ring, it had to be more than 50 miles away from another ring, and you had to get 10 members there as charter members (I was one of them).  A Territorial VP come in to do all the official procedure stuff.  Then, we were a club.

When I moved to Ohio, I found Ring 7 in Columbus and joined it.  This ring has been around for a while.  For 2 years I was VP, then President for 2 years, but I haven't been back for a while.

Tom




Thanks for the info, Tom. Albany and Eugene are very far from me. Eugene is more than a two hour drive. Albany is even further.

Starting a local ring is appealing to me. I would only be concerned that I couldn't give it the attention that it would surely need. I'm going to talk to Dan Waterman about this and see if he would like to tag team with me. 

If so, we can start taking serious steps to try and do this.

Thank you all for your encouraging words 😉

Rudy

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Congratulations Rudy! They do themselves a favor to affiliate you!!!

All the best,

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I know a significant number of people have had bad experiences with local magic clubs.

That said, I belong to two IBM rings, (each one is within an hour of my house but in opposite directions). I have been a member of both for several years and have really enjoyed belonging. Members with much more experience than myself (and that is most of them) have been supportive and very willing to help when I have asked for advice. I have gotten a lot out of attending the meetings because there is always at least a little tip or insight that I can use. And each group hires a lecture or two each year and those have been great. Regards.


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I know a significant number of people have had bad experiences with local magic clubs.

That said, I belong to two IBM rings, (each one is within an hour of my house but in opposite directions). I have been a member of both for several years and have really enjoyed belonging. Members with much more experience than myself (and that is most of them) have been supportive and very willing to help when I have asked for advice. I have gotten a lot out of attending the meetings because there is always at least a little tip or insight that I can use. And each group hires a lecture or two each year and those have been great. Regards.




Hi Pepeq, I'd be curious to know what it is that makes for a bad experience at a magic club.

It would be my goal to create a similar atmosphere to what we've cultivated here at the Magician's Forum.

Rudy

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I didn't give the source because it has become a common enough line. BTW, good on you for stepping up to lead the Ring.

I visited the Ring 6 Facebook page and saw a pic of members. Seems a decidedly mature group. Are there younger members coming along?


Working on it, Ray...I've told the group I want our membership to look more like our audiences:  younger magicians, more women magicians and more magicians of color.

I'm hopeful.
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Hi Rudy,

What I have heard from people are a few common complaints. In order of frequency (at least what I was told)


Members being unsupportive and or openly critical of newbies (new to magic)/newer members of the group.

There being a clique within the group that really runs the group. Other members are along for the ride.

Other magicians have stolen original material without asking from someone who performed it for the group.



As I said, that has not been my experience. People have been very willing to help if asked. I have learned quite a bit from being a member and I really enjoy it.

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Rudy - You might want to check with Johnny New York re: rings. He took over as president of an IBM ring in the Detroit area and really turned it around. I think attendance went from 10 or 12 to nearly 40. People I knew who were members said that after Johnny took over things took a dramatic turn for the better.

Some of the IBM and SAM groups spend way too much time on business and formality and, as a result, people drop out and session with friends on an informal basis. The average age of most Rings and Assemblies is very high. They're having a lot of trouble attracting younger magicians.

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Congratulations, Rudy!  I was a member of both IBM and SAM since the mid-1970’s, but let my memberships expire a few years ago.

Since I don’t get The Linking Ring anymore, obviously I won’t be able to read TMF contributions from the upcoming February issue.  Hopefully someone will be able too share some of the effects here?

Arthur

 


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WELCOME IBM OFFICIAL MEMBER #74546R  😉
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WELCOME IBM OFFICIAL MEMBER #74546R  😉


Thanks Don!!

It’s official! I am now a card carrying member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians!

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Congratulations from #42220 !  Glad to have you aboard. 

I predict that you will be International President someday.
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Congratulations from #42220 !  Glad to have you aboard. 

I predict that you will be International President someday.


If you can afford it.

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