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Influences?

Paul Harris, Juan Tamariz, Garrett Thomas, Harry Lorayne, Dani Daortiz, Chan Canasta, David Berglas, Barrie Richardson, Eugene Burger and many, many more - these are some of mine from the world of magic.

The Japanese poet Matsuo Basho once said: "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise; seek what they sought" 

So many have gone before us, and of course they inspire us, but I often wonder what drives us to follow, and seek? and do we wish to emulate, or originate? 

Earlier this week I came across an interview with Didier Graffet, who said:"When I was younger and learning to paint, I was inspired by other artists' work, but now I avoid looking too much at the websites of other illustrators, even though they are good, everything is good, but I want to develop my own imagination."

Utilizing our imagination allows us to put our unique spin on the way we perform our magic, but so many times these days we see people doing the same tricks, using the same presentations and patter; I guess George Lucas was speaking of such things when he decided to title one his Star Wars prequels 'Attack Of The Clones' [smile]

Two days ago Bizzaro joined us and was kind enough to gift his Creativity Notes here at the forum - they are definitely worth reading, and certainly got me thinking.

All the magicians I admire are unique, none are clones that is for sure, and their tricks are evidence of this, even if they are performing the classics.  As I say it got me thinking, how about you guys, any thoughts? 
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Although I wouldn't say he was an "influence", I think Jerry Andrus is a great example of someone that danced to his own beat.  Zone Zero is something that was so unique and while he did sell the effect, I can't imagine anyone else doing it.  Instead of cups and balls, he did a routine with brass pipes.  It was every bit as magical but uniquely his.  Accupressure is another one of his that comes to mind.  Jerry even created sleights to accomplish things that other moves couldn't do.  He could make moves like his Panoramic Pass look pretty natural.  Very happy I got to see him lecture live.  I'll never forget it.

My first influencers were Ernie Heldman and Harry Monti (Monteith), whom I met and in Harry's case, studied under.  After that came Gene Devoe of the Devoe Magic Den in St. louis.  Later, watching guys in the local magic scene such as Dan Fleshman and Chris Kenner inspired me.  Finally, John Mendoza and Brother John Hamman, also St. Louisans helped to serve as models.
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I forget who said it, I think it was a famous composer, who basically said he never created anything original.  I think what he was getting at was that he had many inspirations and influences and he would take aspects from each of their work that he enjoyed and admired and incorporate them into his own works.  Maybe the same holds true for magicians.  You take things that you enjoy about your favorite magicians and incorporate them into what you do.  What ends up happening is a blend of all of your influences combined with who you are.
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The first magician I ever met was David Williamson. He has been an influence. Forget the crazy antics and all.The magic is great. When i saw him perform his Floating assembly I felt like I'd seen real magic.
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From the world of magic... Dan Garrett, Gary Kurtz, Juan Tamariz, Harry Lorayne, Max Maven, John Bannon, and those countless magicians across the years, most of whose names I cannot recall, who offered advice, critique, an idea, or a kind word of encouragement.

This forum has produced its own share of influences. Mike Powers, Mike Breggar, Rudy Tinoco, Evil Dan, Dan Waterman, Socrates, Paul Hallas... I could go on and on and still leave out so many who have added to and expanded my magical horizons during our interactions here on the forum.

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It was Roy Benson who set me on the path to Perverse Magic.

Benson did a beautiful "billiard ball" routine as he produced 2 inch white balls when suddenly a red ball was produced.

He looked confused then looked in a book. Great Perverse Magic!!
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I've seen video but wish that I could have seen Roy Benson live.  Of course same holds true for Cardini, etc., etc.
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The first magician I ever met was David Williamson. He has been an influence. Forget the crazy antics and all.The magic is great. When i saw him perform his Floating assembly I felt like I'd seen real magic.


I continue to maintain that he is the greatest of his generation. Unfortunately his magic is often over shadowed by his Foole act.

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I continue to maintain that he is the greatest of his generation. Unfortunately his magic is often over shadowed by his Foole act.


Upon which I have commented in other threads. He is obviously a sleight of hand virtuoso, but his over-the-top style puts me off.

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From what I have seen, he doesnt do the crazy stuff when he performs for non magicians.
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Del Ray was a unique performer, mixing electronics, sleight-of-hand, and his own performing style.
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I just spent the last 2 hours with someone who saw Del Ray live back in the 80's, told me stories of when he met and spent time with Larry Jennings and Derek Dingle... We were training Jiu Jitsu. 

He is my biggest  influence in magic and having almost 50 years experience, working every venue possible, he has taught me many secrets (not just tricks)....
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I just spent the last 2 hours with someone who saw Del Ray live back in the 80's, told me stories of when he met and spent time with Larry Jennings and Derek Dingle... We were training Jiu Jitsu. 

He is my biggest  influence in magic and having almost 50 years experience, working every venue possible, he has taught me many secrets (not just tricks)....


Del Ray was said by many to be one of the most amazing performers of his day.  His style was as unique as some of his effects.  Watch the video here and see Dick Cavett and Harry Lorayne in the audience.  Not sure but could that be Jimmy Grippo introducing Del?

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And his stage magic is not to be missed....

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I am grateful to have seen Del perform both his stage and closeup shows at one of the Atlanta Harvest of Magic conventions back in the late 80s. I'll be honest and admit that I knew nothing about him, and his name on the list of convention performers for that year meant little to me. Afterwards... I was converted.

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One of my biggest mistakes in magic was falling asleep (from staying up all night!) and missing Del Ray's show at the IBM convention. I think it was the IBM in Pittsburgh in the 1980's. But it may have been in Orlando in the early 1990's. Never had another chance to see him. 

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Del Ray was said by many to be one of the most amazing performers of his day.  His style was as unique as some of his effects.  Watch the video here and see Dick Cavett and Harry Lorayne in the audience.  Not sure but could that be Jimmy Grippo introducing Del?


I've always said that the moment he lifted the dice cup and it was empty was the single most magical moment I ever, personally, experienced. I never forgot it.

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Influences?  Too many to mention.  Names that instantly come to mind are Dai Vernon, Frank Garcia, Slydini, Paul Harris, Harry Lorayne, Al Leech, Phil Goldstein, Bobo, Tommy Wonder, Hugard, Daryl, and the list goes on.


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I admire the work of Max Maven, Luke Jermay, Richard Osterlind, Annemann, Docc Hilford, Patrick Redford, Kenton Knepper, Bill Cushman, and Anthony Jacquin. I've also have had the immense pleasure of befriending Andrew Gerard, Ken Dyne, Phil Smith, and Pablo Amira. I also have friends that are unknown names in the industry that constantly get me thinking and influencing my work. Even Soc has influenced my work to a pretty large extent. 

I also want to mention Eugene Burger. My parents bought me his Magical Voyage set when I was just a teen. I was too young to understand the brilliance. Even though I don't often perform magic in the traditional sense, Eugene has completely changed how I see my participants and how I perform. 

I would also like to give an honorable mention to my three favorite artist: Warren Zevon, Derren Brown, and Jordan Peele. 


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