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Wayne T

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I am looking for this coincidence trick (10 for 10 by Yves Doumergue). I believe it is similar to Larry Jennings Prefiguration discussed here

A demo of the trick is featured on Joshua Jay's Let's Talk Tricks which can be seen here on YouTube.

I did some google searches and also ventured over to the Green place. I understand it was in Magic Magazine September 2003 and is supposed to be in Genii. I have a subscription to Genii but I cannot find it there. If someone can actually find it there and direct me it would be appreciated.

Any info on where this can be found or purchased please let me know.

Wayne 

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Magic Magazine (September 2003, pg. 80)

Go to the Genii Magazine site, sign in, and then click on any of the issues.
Once the issue opens, click on "Issues" (right pane).
At top left click on Magic Magazine link.
Scroll on down to the Sept '03 issue and you should be good to go from there...

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Thanks Evan. It wasn't the most obvious path for me but once you pointed it out I found it.

Doh!, I didn't even know that Magic Magazine was there but now you gave me way more stuff to read.


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Wayne T,

                 For the setup, do this instead. Set up 4 different 4 of a kinds throughout the deck, one on top, one  near the center, one 3/4 down and one near the bottom. That way when the spectator overhand shuffles you still have an almost 100% chance of one of the 4 of a kinds intact. 

                 I got this idea from another trick that was in the one and only APOCALYPSE.
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                 For the setup, do this instead. Set up 4 different 4 of a kinds throughout the deck, one on top, one  near the center, one 3/4 down and one near the bottom. That way when the spectator overhand shuffles you still have an almost 100% chance of one of the 4 of a kinds intact. 

                 I got this idea from another trick that was in the one and only APOCALYPSE.


Thanks rready, as you know in reality you only need a block of 3 as you remove the 4th card as the "prediction" but setting up more four of a kinds is a good idea.

I made a couple of other changes to reduce the options of the spec so that you don't have to go to "an out" if they don't do what you expect. Anyway I do like the original but I just wanted to make it easier for me. It won't fool a magi but works well for others.


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My own experience is that, with the correct spectator management, the four of a kind will stay together. When it does not, half the time it’ll be a 1/3 split which is a no brainer, the other case will be a 2/2 split which is easy to cope with too.

In a very few cases, I had to cull together three of a kind.

Wayne, if you don’t mind sharing, either openly or via PM, how do you avoid the worst case scenario, which happens nearly every second performance for me. Do you just instruct the spec. to deal the cards alternately?

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My own experience is that, with the correct spectator management, the four of a kind will stay together. When it does not, half the time it’ll be a 1/3 split which is a no brainer, the other case will be a 2/2 split which is easy to cope with too.

In a very few cases, I had to cull together three of a kind.

Wayne, if you don’t mind sharing, either openly or via PM, how do you avoid the worst case scenario, which happens nearly every second performance for me. Do you just instruct the spec. to deal the cards alternately?



Hello Francois, I sent you a PM. I don't mind discussing this in the Inner Circle, I don't mind revealing my own ideas in public but I don't think we should reveal Yves working here.

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Thanks Wayne. Will get back to  you.
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Wayne,

               I'd be curious also. I haven't looked at in a while so I'll go over it again but I do know what Francois is talking about. 
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