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My personal preference is to use a regular deck.  However, I have recently been toying around with the idea of introducing MacDonald’s Aces into my set.  

 Does anyone know where I can purchase a decent set of MacDonald’s Aces gimmicks?  (The ones I’m practicing with are poor quality).


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Here's one possible set you may find useful: 

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/1115

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I made the mistake of buying those, Luigimar.  Bad quality!
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Cardshark sells a deck consisting of a collection of popular specialty cards - it includes the ones you need for McD Aces ... of course they are designed to match regular Phoenix cards.

http://www.card-shark.de/index.cfm?page=93&lang=en&detail=true&Category=15&ArtID=112

If you are looking for Bicycles, you can order a full deck containing the necessaries from Amazon for under $10 US.
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Thanks for the links, Robin.  I prefer Bicycles, so I'll try the ones from amazon.
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Hi Arthur,

The set I saw on Amazon was $20. For that money you can buy a standard deck of double facers (Bicycle) and get two full sets of aces as well as all the rest.

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Hi Mike,

Actually, the set I bought was $11.05 with free shipping:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000WZC9NO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But thanks for the tip ... If I find the routine works for me, I'll get some double-facers to have as backup.

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I have some sets of McD aces here. I sell a booklet that teaches two routines that use them viz. Olram Aces (Jon Racherbaumer) and The Impossible Travelers (me).

I'm happy to send out a set of Aces for $5.00. Just PayPal $5 to mpowers@mallofmagic.com and I'll mail them out - only in USA. Sorry, postage is too expensive otherwise.

Racherbaumer's routine has an excellent method for getting the gaffs into play. And the vanishes of the aces are very good too. 

My routine, The Impossible Travelers is basically an Open Travelers meets McDonald's aces concept. Here's an old video that will give you the basic idea. It's pretty low res, though.

http://www.mallofmagic.com/Videos/imptrav3.wmv

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I found some McD Aces, Mike.  It’s been so long since I used gaffs, I forgot that I had a deck of double facers!

 However, I would be very interested in purchasing your booklet containing yours and Jon Racherbaumer’s routines.  How can I do that?

 Arthur


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Hi Arthur,

The old pricing was $20 including the gaffs. Since you have the gaffs, I'll send you one for $15 post paid in the US. I only have a few around here. It's not listed on my site. I used to sell it at lectures. I should resurrect this item and maybe make it a download. Now to find some time....

BTW "Vino Aces" from John Gaustaferro is very good. I use my own routine, similar to Olram Aces but with the wine glasses as in John's routine. It makes for a very classy image. 

You might also consider the use of a Hofzinser card. It makes for a killer moment in the vanishing sequence. You show three non-aces clearly. Then the "ace" can be seen through the back-lit card. Only, when the glass is turned around, the ace is gone! It's a WOW moment in any McD aces routine.

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Payment has been sent, Mike.  Thanks so much!
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Just bought this today at Dave’s Killer Magic Shop in Vancouver, WA.

I also picked up Alpha Deck by Richard Sanders. I haven’t had the opportunity to try it out in the real world, but I’m very happy with my purchase and look forward to performing it.

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Just bought this today at Dave’s Killer Magic Shop in Vancouver, WA. I also picked up Alpha Deck by Richard Sanders. I haven’t had the opportunity to try it out in the real world, but I’m very happy with my purchase and look forward to performing it. Rudy
I have about 15 or so of the MacDonalds Aces referenced by Rudy remaining in my inventory (liquidating, going out of business due to health). I'll post them in "Another Man's Treasure" for $9, US postage paid. These are USPCC Bikes, and it includes a good instructional DVD.

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I’m happy to report that the Ace gaffs obtained from Amazon.com (the same item pictured in Rudy’s photo above) are good.  The DVD performance isn’t bad, either.  But as always, I’ll develop my own interpretation (based, I’m sure, on some ideas I’ll be getting from Mike Powers’ booklet).


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In case anybody else is looking for something similar in the future, another option is to buy a gaff deck that includes the cards needed for MacDonald's Aces.  As an extra bonus you'll get a deck with lots of other gaffed cards that you can use for other effects.

Magic Makers has produced a couple of different gaffed decks that typically sell for fairly cheap (prices I'm seeing right now on Amazon range from $25 to 35).  Both products come with an instructional DVD teaching over a dozen packet tricks that can be performed with the cards included.  

The Ultimate Gaff Deck Kit (see my detailed review [here])
https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Makers-Ultimate-Gaff-Deck/dp/B00IFQS5MQ

Packet Killer (see my detailed review [here]).
https://www.amazon.com/Packet-Killer-Tricks-Special-Bicycle/dp/B000JQQMD4

The DVD that comes with Packet Killer is easily the better of the two, and comes with good teaching by Simon Lovell.  The DVD that comes with the Ultimate Gaff Deck has teaching by Kris Nevling, and leaves a lot to be desired.  But if it's just the cards you're after, both are good options.  Packet Killer has received a lot of good reviews since it was first released.

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I bought Mike's Impossible Travelers/Olram Aces from him in the mid-90s at an Abbott's Get Together. I highly recommend the routines.

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Thanks James!

Racherbaumer's opening sequence where the cards are shown and laid down is excellent. I always use it when performing McD's Aces.

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Hi Mike.

Jon's from what book or publication?

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From Mike's excellent publication, mentioned earlier on in this thread. 

It features Olram Aces (Jon Racherbaumer) and The Impossible Travelers (Mike Powers). 

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Thanks for the kind words Arthur!

Jon let me use Olram Aces for the manuscript. It originally appeared in Marlo Magazine 3. 

I probably should offer the manuscript as a PDF download for anyone who already has the DFers needed.

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After you've found your perfect gaffs, check out John Gustaferro's 'Famous Aces'  - My all time favorite 'McDonalds Aces' routine by far.

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After you've found your perfect gaffs, check out John Gustaferro's 'Famous Aces'  - My all time favorite 'McDonalds Aces' routine by far.



Arthur with your musical bent I think Famous Aces will be a favourite if yours. Good call Mitch.
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You might also consider the use of a Hofzinser card. It makes for a killer moment in the vanishing sequence. You show three non-aces clearly. Then the "ace" can be seen through the back-lit card. Only, when the glass is turned around, the ace is gone! It's a WOW moment in any McD aces routine.



I love that idea Mike! I've never found a source of good quality hofzinser cards though, but I certainly would like to try that out!

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   Check out my Fantastic Ace Assembly if you can find it - many have told me that they get the same strong reaction if not stronger with that - any deck, any time, routine - than with some of the gaffed versions.
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Arthur with your musical bent I think Famous Aces will be a favourite if yours. Good call Mitch.


You're right, Gareth.  I really like that patter line!  Thanks to you and Mitch for posting it.

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   Check out my Fantastic Ace Assembly if you can find it - many have told me that they get the same strong reaction if not stronger with that - any deck, any time, routine - than with some of the gaffed versions.

Harry Lorayne's Ace Assembly is indeed ungaffed and very impressive.  You can see him perform it here:



He teaches it in his 2016 Jaw Droppers lecture, which you can get via Rudy for just $5, and includes teaching of 15 tricks.  For more info on that and details on how to get it, see my review here: http://www.themagiciansforum.com/post/review-harry-loraynes-jaw-droppers-lecture-9702987



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That is just beautiful, Harry!
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I am another fan of the un-gaffed method. I prefer doing Jazz Aces to the McDonald effect. When the routine ends, I am totally clean. I use the patter found in The Brush from a Darwin Ortiz routine that can be found in his Scams & Fantasies book.

You can use his presentation of The Brush for your McDonald Aces routine too!






Here is someone doing The Brush.

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If you are a fan of McDonald Aces routines, check this out:

https://www.lybrary.com/bammo-aces-p-923728.html

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       Sorry - so far I'll stick to my own Fantastic Ace Assembly.
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Harry, that's understandable. A great routine.
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I have always had "Fantastic Ace Assembly" in my regular repertory.
It is the gradual Ace Assembly I have performed the most.
I have it included in the repertory of recommended card trick in my amateur card magic book on page 305.
The following is my comment:

"(...)The one I use frequently for my usual repertoire, for its relative simplicity and effectiveness, is the one we can find in volume 1 of the DVD series "Harry Lorayne's Best Ever Collection" with the name of "Fantastic Aces Assembly."
It’s a gem not very difficult to perform, ideal for an amateur who wants to delight in casual situations.(...)

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fantastic ace assembly and rock n roll aces are mainstays for me. would love to add the Mcdonald version but can't  find the gaffs in bicycle backs
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Tom, get in touch with Marty Martini, he'll make up whatever you want.
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I’ll second Bob’s note about his new “Bammo Aces”. I bought this and found this routine fun and amazing.
In my mind it is the evolution of the McD Aces effect. You’ll need some gaffs .. not the usual three gaffs included in a McD Aces routine. And the “target” four cards do not have to be Aces. While the moves are similar to the traditional McD Aces moves, Bob has routined this to be easy execution-wise. So, you too will have a good time watching the foursome disappear, appear, move around etc. Even as you perform it!
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Another routine that's similar to McD's aces is Brother Hamman's "Atomic Aces." The gaffs are different and allow for some very interesting handling options. Allan Ackerman has a video that comes with cards. I think Atomic Aces is on the video. 

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Since we seemed to have morphed into a list of people's favorite MacDonald's Aces routines, I'll throw in my two cents:

One cent: For ungaffed Ace Assemblies, Harry's is hard to beat.

Another cent: For gaffed versions: I haven't seen anyone mention Alexander de Cova'a handling, but anyone interested can find it on the MacDonald's Aces WGM video. I really like the way he eliminates even any suspicion of the method.

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