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Anthony Vinson

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Here while back Waterman and the Evil One inspired me to track down my old set of Color Monte, the venerable Emerson and West packet trick. I had contended that using regular cards for the effect was every bit as effective as using the marketed cards. They both disagreed. They were right.

For some strange reason connected to the silly human psyche those damn foil-imprinted pasteboards turn the trick from puzzling to audience-pleasing. The reactions have been surprising. (So much so that I have ordered two new sets.) That got me wondering…

I also dragged out a couple of old paddle effects, practiced, and tried one of them out. While I have only performed one of the effects a couple of times so far, the reactions have been good.) The Jumping Arrow is taking a bit more practice, but it will be ready for the world soon enough.)

And another: A couple of months back, in response to a general challenge issued on the forum by the Evil One, I cleaned up an old, neglected Scotch and Soda set and have been using it since. Again, over-the-top reactions.

So here’s my thanks to the two Dans – Thanks, dudes, for the inspiration! Your insights and challenges are among the reasons I love TMF.

And now here’s my question for the rest of you (and purpose for the topic): What marketed effects do you routinely use that generate perversely exaggerated audience reactions? Packet tricks, paddle tricks, coin sets… Conversely, how long has it been since you tried out some of those old marketed effects relegated to your junk drawers?

Looking forward to your responses!

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Right off the bat.....

TURBO STICK by Richard Sanders
It's a dry erase plastic paddle.
The routine that it comes with, with the X's kills!!
I use dots instead of X's. It's easier for me to draw dots of the same size than to make X's that all look alike.
You might think it's a lot of money for a plastic paddle, but the cheaper ones don't clean up as well.
You can also contact Richard directly for extra paddles without the DVD.

I perform this on the street during festivals. It's eye candy for the little knee knockers but floors adults as well, especially when you "start over" and flick the dot from one position to the next. I ALWAYS have this with me when performing. In fact, my wife has a gig this Saturday and the host told her to bring your kids and husband. We don't have kids but I'm going and I'm looking to perform strolling magic while I'm there if the people are into it. Turbo Stick will be with me.
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I mentioned a few months ago on here, that I found my Johnson half dollar shell in a jewelry box that was inside one of my moving boxes.

I am just practicing Paul Gertner's A Familiar Ring from the book Steel & Silver. I am not really ready to try this out on family and friends yet.

Also, I carried in my wallet Gaeton Bloom's flat three card monte routine many years ago. It was a dealer item and I only stopped doing it because the gimmicked card wouldn't work anymore. I don't remember the name of the effect either.
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Alien Autopsy and B'Wave always go over well. So does Sankey's Holy Moly
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Turbo Stick looks interesting. So does Alien Autopsy. And I would imagine that rediscovering that shell opened up lots of possibilities. As for B'Wave, man that one never fails to amaze, does it?

I recently took advantage of Paul Gordon's generous offer and purchased The Gordon Diary. It has all the makings of an any time, any where miracle. It'll take some time to get comfortable with the routine and make it look seamless, but it'll be worth the effort.

Thanks for the responses so far. Lots of interesting favorites out there!

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One tip for B'Wave. I bought multiple sets and eventually made it from gaffed decks that supplied the necessary cards.
I keep multiple sets in a packet trick holder.
This way I can perform it on someone and answer the question: "What if I picked something else?" with "Then it wouldn't have worked."
If asked to repeat in the same group, I'll take out a set of the opposite color and a different court card. And do it again.

Ex:
I usually start by asking a few questions: What's your favorite day of the week? What do you like better; chocolate or vanilla? Then I'll grab a set of cards.
So in the first case it's black kings.
For repeat I'll ask someone more questions: What is your favorite holiday? As a kid, did you walk to school or bring your lunch.
The second set will be red queens or red jacks.
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Interesting, Evil One...

I often follow B'Wave with John Bannon's Discrepancy City Prediction from Smoke and Mirrors, but with the same conceit. "I know what you're thinking: What if I picked another color/suit?" 

 
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Queens Out of Control by Gerry Griffin is one of my favorites. I still use the same cards that came with the DVD 10 years ago. It always gets amazing reactions!

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Anthony...Glad the Evil one and I were able to send you down the path of forgotten but effective magic! Here's a couple of stand-byes that wont need to be dusted off when I retrieve them from my magic drawer...

Dice Bomb...these sold like proverbial hotcakes at Dave's Killer Magic Shop. The basic premise is that a large Die would explode into several tiny dice when it was shaken inside a plastic, see thru container. Very visual! Dave switched the tiny dice with Skittles candies when he demo'ed the effect. It got such great customer reactions that I now use it at restaurant and other walk-around gigs!

Nickles to Dimes...tough to find a well-made version, but once you have this effect it's hard to resist performing it a hundred times a day!

Money Paddle...for God's sake just get this and perform it...paddle effects rank up there as some of my all time favorites. Money Paddle is in my top 3.


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Nickles to Dimes - it's so old it's new.
BUT....I can't find a good one to save my life. 

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Another effect I rediscovered is the Coin Board, Miracle Coin Board, Miracle Panel Board, Coin Panel Board, etc.
Really hard to find a good one these days.

Here's two clips of me doing vanishes - It might look a little stiff because I was balancing a phone camera while trying to shoot it and do the magic at the same time.



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Evil One, I wasn't familiar with those boards. Looks good. If they are what I think, they are based off an old principle.

Funny that both you and Waterman mentioned paddle tricks. I hadn't considered paddles for years until unearthing the two I mentioned above. I've been focused on cards and mentalism for so long that most else receded into the background. So far, so fun!

The Turbo Stick you mention does look interesting, although as you mentioned it is a bit pricey. Not a bad thing if it's worth it. Some of the revues at the Frozen Bird mention the handle being cut so that the handling is obvious. That hasn't been an issue with you? Maybe it's just a couple of folks overthinking...

The Money Paddle Watermen recommended looks interesting as well.

The one I've been playing with is from the 80s. It was sold as DOTS INCREDIBLE. It is a Hot Rod type effect with a total of eight changes. Pretty cool. Nice little gimmick. I'd explain better if I'd thought to drop this topic in The Session Room. Looked around on line and don't believe they are available these days. Too bad...


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The cut doesn't present a problem.
The original Turbo Sticks had a square top to it. They are now rounded due to popular outcry from the masses. 
I like the square top and got a few spared directly from Richard by emailing him.
I don't have a problem with either one.

I still do Jumping Arrow, but due to it's size, it's limited as to how many people can see it. I've performed Turbo Stick on the tricks with maybe 30-40 people watching. It's big and bright enough for people to see.
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Turbo Stick is my number one paddle trick. It NEVER fails to get great reactions!

By the way Evil...your coin board handling is excellent!
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Turbo Stick is my number one paddle trick. It NEVER fails to get great reactions!

By the way Evil...your coin board handling is excellent!


Sure is! Looks like real magic!

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Alice's Revenge by Bob Farmer is a nice effect.
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All paddle tricks provide excellent bang for buck, IMHO. And I agree that Turbostick is the bee's knees [smile]. The paddle I mostly use is the super cheap jumping dots, though, because it fits in my slimline wallet [smile]

B'wave is awesome - again so powerful for so little effort! And, again, in my wallet.

I've been pleasantly surprised by the reactions I've got from the crazy compass - cheap, easy, wallet friendly, yet seems to a disproportionate reaction.

The many variations of age/number prediction cards (lottery versions or whatever) are, again, easy and wallet friendly but can provide nice reactions.

Believe it or not, the banana/cardboard curve 'which is bigger' optical illusion can sometimes be surprisingly effective.

Haunted doll effects - extra nice, easy, but not, unfortunately wallet friendly, lol. Good reactions.

And, of course, a whole slew of packet tricks, card tricks, tricks with sponges and coins, 'magician's choice' effects, bar betchas, and body tricks get way more reaction than they 'deserve', lol [smile]

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It could be where I'm just a fanboy and it was one of the first marketed effects I ever bought, but, I still use Chad Long's Flash.I incorporate a couple of Bill Malone's moves from the World's Greatest Magic - Color Changing KnivesDVD. But, the original routine is sufficient. I've been meaning to get to work on what I believe would be a stronger closer (or 2nd "closer" I'm not really sure what the correct term is. "Kicker" maybe?).
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Invisible Deck invariably gets the best reactions for me.

After that, I have had very good success with Color Monte, Silver, Copper, Brass from Johnson, John Cornelius' Thought Transmitter II, and also the Hot Rod (especially the hot rod I purchased from Rings n' Things, which is custom made from steel and has beautiful genuine Swarovski crystals). 
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Armstrong’s Tiny plunger and Flom’s Cardartistry both get great reactions.
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Excellent suggestions! While I do not recognize all mentioned, Hot Rod, B'Wave, Alice's Revenge, and Copper, Silver, Brass are all great effects. (In fact, I am going to dig up my old Johnson set of CSB and get to practicing.) 

I've unearthed another oldie-but-goodie from my magic junk drawer: Gregory Wilson's "IT" - Silly, punny, and entertaining. 
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For a fairly quick and magical effect, Daryl's Odd Quad is a good one.
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Nobody has mentioned "Jumping Gems"
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Nobody has mentioned "Jumping Gems"


Indeed. Another goodie. Does anyone out there still regularly perform it?
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For a fairly quick and magical effect, Daryl's Odd Quad is a good one.


I like Odd Quad, but don't love it. Glad you have good success with it. What's your presentation? Do you use Daryl's script - Which is good - or do you have your own?
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I've had a lot of strong responses to "Hopping Half" which incorporates two expanded shells and a Sun and Moon coin. Kids like Paul Harris's "Solid Deception" and Aldo Colombini's "Fly Cards." And, of course, "Color Monte." With the latter I've been repeatedly showing a blue card and a yellow card, and at the end rubbing them together over the last card which turns green. Not to say the original routine isn't a killer. It is.

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Hopping Half was always fun. Still have my set, but haven't performed it in forever.

Jerry Mentzer used to sell a plastic gimmick for Solid Deception that looked and felt great. Made the routine a snap to perform without a glue stick! Wonder if those are still available anywhere...
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Lethal Tender by Steve Dusheck...'nuff said!!
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Here's an effect that is a total stunner that happens in the spectator's hands. It's called ACE, from Richard Sanders. Simple, eye- popping, and really magical.

Here's the demo:.


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Oh, right... I forgot to give an example of an old marketed effect that may lie forgotten in the bottom of your very first magic duffel bag... How about the old Feel-a-Color? About a buck when I was a kid, and maybe four bucks today? I still do it today when I can, 40 years later, and it always gets reactions well beyond the expected for a beginner trick. I have really finessed the presentation and how I handle the envelopes, to the point where some people honestly think I'm sensing the color they selected. The presentation also eliminates any possibility of coming anywhere near the explanation, and also makes it pretty foolproof against spectator not doing exactly as they are instructed while your back is turned. I know that with a little thought, most on this forum can do the same.
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Here's an effect that is a total stunner that happens in the spectator's hands. It's called ACE, from Richard Sanders. Simple, eye- popping, and really magical. Here's the demo:.


Yeah, that looks nice, but a 70 minute training video?! Do you use the routine?
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Sanders is kind of known for his extremely detailed instruction, which many find very helpful because he covers about every possible finesse.  Also, he generally - as is the case here - includes two or more alternate handlings (with sleights, without sleights, etc) and variants on the effect itself.  

I've used a couple of the routines (rarely perform now, due to illness), and they really are at least as good as it looks in the demo.  I'm kind of tired of this word now, but ACE would probably be considered by most to be a real "worker".

Does anyone else who uses this regularly want to chime in?  I honestly think it would be the rare performer who would disagree with my opinion on this effect, but I also don't want to steer anybody wrong if I'm just enamored of it myself. [love]

  

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Did Jumping Gems at 3 shows last week. Also used the 3 1/2 of clubs to really good reaction (to my amazement).
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Did Jumping Gems at 3 shows last week. Also used the 3 1/2 of clubs to really good reaction (to my amazement).


The gag cards always get fun reactions. I did stop using them at one time as some of the experts reckoned it suggests we are using trick cards (especially if the backs match the deck you're using) and maybe there are other 'trick' cards in your deck. 

A few weeks ago in my restaurant gigs I was using a two and a half of clubs and a half of spades as two prediction cards. Both were in a deck of gaffs I bought years back.

Also recently revived Mark Jennest's "Jiggernaut" alternative for the chop cup I bought years ago. great routine.
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Matchbox Penetration is one that I enjoy performing.  It gets good reactions.  I found a really small wooden puzzle box that I use when performing it for kids, rather than matches.


I also agree about The Color Monte.  I've tried it with regular cards, and usually not as strong of a reaction as the red and blue foil cards.  It is ok if using a borrowed desk and just perform it occasionally.



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In his recent workshop on palming, Michael Close taught a brilliant handling of Colour Monte that doesn't use the Alignment/Turnover move.  It's really strong. 
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Also recently revived Mark Jennest's "Jiggernaut" alternative for the chop cup I bought years ago. great routine.


I saw that demoed and thought, if I were a performing pro, that it's something I would learn. Lots of magic moments, lots of laughs. Glad to hear someone is using it. I'll bet it gets great reactions. 

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In his recent workshop on palming, Michael Close taught a brilliant handling of Colour Monte that doesn't use the Alignment/Turnover move.  It's really strong. 


Yes, it was brilliant. 

I don't do the Alignment Move when performing Color Monte. Instead, I reengineered the order of the reveals and use a double turnover of the bottom two cards, holding back the top card with my thumb. Does that make sense? I've done it for years, and it works well. I doubt that it is original with me. 

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I’ve always performed the Christ-Annemann Alignment Move with Color Monte. I don’t rush through it and it seems to blow by most people. Every once in awhile I’ll catch a smile and twinkle in someone’s eye like they figured it out, but that all crumbles when the final card gets revealed. That being said, I’ve never verbally been called out on the move or even for doing something fishy.

I also prefer it to any sequence of double turnover moves. I think they look less natural and more suspect.
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Yes, it was brilliant. 

I don't do the Alignment Move when performing Color Monte. Instead, I reengineered the order of the reveals and use a double turnover of the bottom two cards, holding back the top card with my thumb. Does that make sense? I've done it for years, and it works well. I doubt that it is original with me. 

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Not original but a good solution.  Doubles off of the bottom are something I've seen and used for a number of effects including the "elevator" plot.  
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