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JoshP06

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Where can I find one of these? Is it similar to the thing Shin Lim used in his final AGT performance. At least conceptually?

I noticed that it is mentioned in Early Marlo/Oddities & Other Miracles/Cardially Yours by Ed Marlo. It is located on pg. 72-73 in Cardially Yours. I am curious as to what this is as well, as I have never heard of one of these things before.

I can upload a picture if needed.

Let me know.

Thanks.

Josh

Here is the part of the Shin Lim performance that I was talking about in case you have not seen it:



Go to the 3 minute mark.
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The one Shin Lim uses is something never conceived of by Ed Marlo. It is a unique product and I doubt it is marketed, nor in my opinion should it be. This is an example of a signature effect best left to him. My opinion, feel free to disagree.

There are "mechanical cards" that provide a lesser quality effect such as this one found on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/i/264494015354?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=264494015354&targetid=917185845248&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=1020183&poi=&campaignid=10459991901&mkgroupid=100467641661&rlsatarget=pla-917185845248&abcId=2146000&merchantid=113482374&gclid=CjwKCAjw9vn4BRBaEiwAh0muDEbv3_KV-wsHKpVQM7L6YfRmoneYT2uHHW78oY9xWDatzJPyB4LZbBoCAKIQAvD_BwEThe

The card Shin uses is truly a marvel. But I ask you how "magical" is it really? To me it is clear he is manipulating it from behind, so at best, the response is likely to be "hey, cool gimmick". YMMV.
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Well, as usual a little more digging yielded more results. Here's a video of a DIY version. You can probably locate a source for it if you are interested. I found a tutorial too, imagine that! But I have more respect for this crazy craft than to link it. Easy enough to find.

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I don't know if this effect is in one of the versions of 52 Shades of Red, maybe another user can comment. That said, I don't have a reference for SL's gimmick.

When I was researching this topic recently, I made the following notes that might be helpful or interesting. Some of these references might not be strictly on-target to the OP, but I will list them all for completeness.  Any subjective comments are from someone else who was posting the original source, and not my opinions. 

I think Luke Dancy has a moving pips effect, might be called Misprint.

Emerson & West Packet tricks- #5, Video / Volume Five Add IX
A magical lesson in mathematics with stunning results. Transprint Printing and misprinting cards by magic. Very visual!
 
Theodore DeLand: A Six of Clubs changes to a Four of Clubs: you SEE the pips crawl across the card, then you can hand the card for examination with no switch.  He also had another version where a Ten of Spades changed to a Ten of Clubs. You just have to see it to believe it--it looks like the pips come to life and morph in front of your eyes.
 
Rocco who had an item where the pips fly out from the center by centrifugal force when the card is spun.

"Visually Yours" by Michael Ammar
 
Daryl's "Presto Printo" (his version of "Printing") has some moments that involve moving/altered pips.
 
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Apocalypse Vol 8 No 11 Nov 85 : Transequential (Dick Chrstain): 4 blanks are printed to become A, 2, 3, and 4 of Spades, then those pips are transferred one at a time to other blank cards.
 
The Art of Modern Conjuring (by: anomymous), Page 51 : Pips vanished from a card and reproduced on a handkerchief.
 
The Magic of Frederica
Edited by: Lewis Ganson
Copyright 1981 by The Supreme Magic Company, Page 17 : The Migrating Pips
 
New Era Card Tricks
by August Roterberg, Page 251 : Moving Pip Card
 
The Books of Wonder, Vol I
By Tommy Wonder & Stephen Minch
Published by Hermetic Press, Page 123 : Falling Pips
 
Five Times Five
by Richard Kaufman, Copyright 1992
Page 34 : New Era Moving Pips (by Tomo Maeda)
Page 100 : The Flowing Pips (by Hiro Sakai)
 
Tricks Of My Trade - The Magic of Doug Conn
by Cummins, Paul W., 1997

 
Pip Trip - A misprinted four of clubs is fixed by having it's pips moved to their correct locations.
 
How To Do Tricks With Cards, by Turner, Bill
(Formerly published as The Card Wizard)
1949 David McKay Co, 1973 Collier Books
Page 109 : The Fading Pips: The 3 of Hearts is poorly passed for an Ace on the bottom of the deck and dealt to the table, but it is found to really be the Ace of Hearts.
 
The Tarbell Course in Magic Vol II
(c) 1927 Tarbell Systems, Inc., 1942 Tannen's, 1975 D. Robbins & Co.
Page 373 : Ghostly Card in the Dark: Floating pips in the dark form the selected card.
 
The New York Magic Symposium Collection Four
by Minch, Stephen, (c) 1985 NY Magic Symposium & Adam J. Fleischer
Page 104 : Point Blank (Latta & Swiss): Card is chosen and lost in the deck. The face up deck is waved and the face card turns into the 3 of Clubs, but this is the wrong card. Next the center pip is pinched off and the 3 becomes a 2, but this is still wrong. The two pips are pushed together to form an Ace: still wrong. The pack is rubbed, but all the faces vanish, leaving it blank. "Ink" is applied to the pack by tapping a pen, and the chosen card appears with the test of the deck faces. Deck may now be used.
 
Here's My Card: No. 1
by Allan Ackerman, Copyright 1978
Page 13 : Easy Off Pips
 
Impact
by Colombini, Aldo
Edited and Illustrated by Lothar Malmberg
(c) 1991 Hades Publications

 
Ace-Mbly: Four aces change places with a blank card. At the end, all the ace's pips are together on ONE card, leaving four blank face cards.



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JoshP06

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Originally Posted by RayJ

There are "mechanical cards" that provide a lesser quality effect such as this one found on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/i/264494015354?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=264494015354&targetid=917185845248&device=t&mktype=pla&googleloc=1020183&poi=&campaignid=10459991901&mkgroupid=100467641661&rlsatarget=pla-917185845248&abcId=2146000&merchantid=113482374&gclid=CjwKCAjw9vn4BRBaEiwAh0muDEbv3_KV-wsHKpVQM7L6YfRmoneYT2uHHW78oY9xWDatzJPyB4LZbBoCAKIQAvD_BwEThe

The card Shin uses is truly a marvel. But I ask you how "magical" is it really? To me it is clear he is manipulating it from behind, so at best, the response is likely to be "hey, cool gimmick". YMMV.


Thanks for the link regardless RayJ.

Yeah, I definitely agree with the fact that you can tell he was manipulating it. If he had all of his fingers exposed, that would have looked legit. Or not touching it all.

Josh
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JoshP06

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I may look into the literature you suggested Kathon. That may be the best bet honestly.

Thanks much.

Josh
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