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I am looking for a quick and solid opener, currently I am thinking about doing a Bank Night routine, but I would rather like to hear what you guys think.

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Mentalism opener for what?
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LOL!!!!!!!

Ok, I'll tell you. I live about three blocks from one of the biggest senior center's in my town. So, I did something I've never done before, that's, walk in off the street, do a few effects, and leave them my flyer, and ask them for the business.

The lady in charge didn't like the fact that my cardshark/gambling act talks about cheating at cards and she felt that it would be sending the wrong message to the seniors. So, being quick on my feet, I told her that I do a mind reading act, then I proceeded to do Doug Dyment's Sign Language..she/they loved it.

So, I have a gig in four weeks and need an opener. I have enough material for a 25 minute program, which is what I am going to do. I do a lot of mentalism when I do walk-around magic but this is something more formal.

I didn't want to debate the lady in charge of entertainment on the subject of cheating at cards ( which isn't what my cardshark act is all about [wink], it was just easier to switch gears and talk about a mind reading show.

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LOL!!!!!!!

Ok, I'll tell you. I live about three blocks from one of the biggest senior center's in my town. So, I did something I've never done before, that's, walk in off the street, do a few effects, and leave them my flyer, and ask them for the business.

The lady in charge didn't like the fact that my cardshark/gambling act talks about cheating at cards and she felt that it would be sending the wrong message to the seniors. So, being quick on my feet, I told her that I do a mind reading act, then I proceeded to do Doug Dyment's Sign Language..she/they loved it.

So, I have a gig in four weeks and need an opener. I have enough material for a 25 minute program, which is what I am going to do. I do a lot of mentalism when I do walk-around magic but this is something more formal.

I didn't want to debate the lady in charge of entertainment on the subject of cheating at cards ( which isn't what my cardshark act is all about&nbsp[wink], it was just easier to switch gears and talk about a mind reading show.

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PM me and I will send you a great comedy opener for mentalism  - not a trick but could be made into a prediction if you want to. Left as is, you state that you need to size up your audience in a quick quiz.  Seniors will love it......     Curious? PM and I will share.

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A lot of performers use a magic square as a "warm up" opener.
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I think bank night is a wonderful way to open. Max Maven's version from his L&L videos is simple and delightful. Lots of people open with psychological force routines. In The Artful Mentalism of Bob Cassidy he writes about opening with the exploding light bulb. Of course he did that in biker bars, so there's that.
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   I closed many of my appearances with the magic square. Usually was good for a standing ovation - left a good taste, etc.
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Maybe it's just me, but I think Bank Night would be a great second routine.  It can be really funny - as in John Archer's routine - but it takes quite a while before you get to the magical/psychic conclusion, and up to that point there's not much happening except people choosing incorrectly.

My suggestion for an opener for a mentalism show would be something fairly immediate that establishes that you are likable, talented, and not out to make people look like losers.  A quick book test, a prediction, divining a peeked card, "mindreading" the date on a chosen coin etc - impress them in under a minute, and then go into something longer that involves more people.

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I sometimes use a "warm up" involving divining the cards held by two spec from the audience.

They are given half the deck prior to the show and are asked to inspect them and be ready. As the show opens, and using the theme, "two heads are better than one",  they are asked if there is anything unusual about the cards or the order of the cards. Regardless, they are asked to shuffle their half.

Then one suit is fairly chosen by a third audience member... and the two specs holding cards remove that suit from the half deck they are holding.

Mentalist has them spread cards so they can see the all cards and then divines who is holding what cards.

Based on old hooks and straights principal.....

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I have also used the same basic routine but using Rocky the Raccoon to discern the card location..... of course he is blind-folded which creates a lot of room for comedy by-play with the kids. Use number cards for the young ones.....



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If you like you can open with some funny lines/ tricks:

1.You : You sir whats your name
 Person: (something)
You[frown]pretend to think with fingers on forehead then say)yes you are right

2.Ask them to think of any four legged animal with tail. Draw a childlike drawing of any such animal. Ask their choice, show your funny drawing. When they laugh, tell them this is how i draw a cow/tiger/lion

3.Similar routine where you ask them to chose a celeb, show them a baby's photo and say thats how they looked in their childhood

4.Start explaining mentalism , what it is about and use lot of big words. After they have been listening for some time, pause and say -Are you actually buying this/ How gullible you guys are - or something apt depending on the audience
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I saw Banachek this weekend. He opened with a book test.
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I like to start small and build in difficulty as the show progresses.
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I think the most popular opener amongst cabaret mentalists must be tossed out deck.
It really engages the audience.
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I have never had the chance to see a mentalist show outside the confines of a magic convention/ local magic club performance. Seems like most mentalist acts follow the format of EvilDan's approach.

For this reason I purchased the jumbo version of Max Mavin's , "B'Wave as an opener to my magic act. It's great. The only mentalism type of effect I do besides Grey Elephant in Denmark.
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Mentalism is such a broad term encompassing a lot.
If you're going to perform mentalism many recommend figuring out what "your powers" are.

The ability to read minds, predict the future, bend mental, influence one's thoughts, lightning memory, etc are all abilities that mentalists project.
Sometimes one ability lessens the other, at least in my opinion.

For example if you do a book test where you have someone open to a called out page and then a called out line and then tell them the first word or two on that line. That could be an impressive feat of mind reading. Follow that up with a calling the cards routine where you memorize a deck in minutes and call it back out in order, then it makes the "mind reading" book test suspect. Did you really read that person's mind, or do you just have the entire book memorized?

Another example is mind reading followed with a kicker prediction stating what you just read, the prediction cancels out any form of mind reading because you already knew what it was going to be.

So, what is your mentalism power or powers?  
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I used Sum Total by Larry Becker in Stunners Plus, it went over very well.

Thanks everybody for your help !

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Another great opener might have been the old “No grey elephants in Denmark” routine.  It’s interactive and involves the whole audience, and seniors would have had a decent and gadget-free education (and therefore know that Denmark is a country).


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There was a time when I started all my mentalism shows with a Spectator locates the Aces effect which used a Lewis Jones method and involved audience members - it was quick and to the point, and got things started with plenty of energy.

Never had any complaints, the audiences loved the shows.


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My favorite opener has always been TOD. It's quick, simple, and gives me the opportunity to set the mood.

You don't even have to use playing cards. I've used blank cards with names of different cities on them. Basically anything that gives me the chance to read multiple minds asap.

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My favorite opener has always been TOD. It's quick, simple, and gives me the opportunity to set the mood..


What does TOD mean ?

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Logan, 

TOD referrers to the Tossed Out Deck. 

I highly suggest Luke Jermay's version taught in his Jermay's Mind DVD set. Or just use any version you can get your hands on before the gig. 

TOD is a classic and a staple for many performers, including myself. 



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Psychological forces are also used as a warm up by some mentalists... if you are unaware of these then see Banachek's PS series of books for details.
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I remember Richard Osterlind opening one of his L&L sets with a simple prediction on a Post-It, I believe, totally relying on a nail writer. It was a 3 digit number. The L&L crowd went berserk, built a statue in the local park and formed a new religion.

It was quick, established his personality and his credibility as a mentalist. I thought it was a good choice.

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I remember Richard Osterlind opening one of his L&L sets with a simple prediction on a Post-It, I believe, totally relying on a nail writer. It was a 3 digit number. The L&L crowd went berserk, built a statue in the local park and formed a new religion.

It was quick, established his personality and his credibility as a mentalist. I thought it was a good choice.

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Yeah, I've been to that shrine and made an offering to the god known as Osterlind. Also, Paul Vigil has some work on the same plot. He may not have fooled Penn and Teller, but he fooled the heck out of me. - Nathan

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