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SpareTopChange

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I've been doing the Mercury cf for some time, but i remember reading an alternative fold in Bannon's Smoke and Mirrors (Creased lighting 3 or something like that).

Did anyone learn both and have a strong opinion of one vs the other?
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Creased Lightning for me. It's much easier, at least for me. I can't get the hang of the mercury fold
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There are a number of card folds out there.  I "believe" Cervon and Lovell had folds. 
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They are both good folds, it really just comes down to personal preferance, and to an extent the actual routine.

Bannons idea does have certain advantages. For example the card ends up essentially in finger palm with the final fold, with no adjustments. Its also handy for those effects where you want the card folded back outward - no need to face the card first.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Creased Lightning 3" - third handling perhaps ? I'm not familiar with the write up in Smoke and Mirrors, I learned it from Impossibilia.


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Thanks everyone.

I just checked Smoke & Mirrors.  He calls it both "Creased Lightning Again" and "Creased Lightning 3".  It's an improved version of what's in Impossibilia.  (Just from skimming, it looks like the difference is in how he gets ready for the fold.)

I think I'm going to start working on it.
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Tommy Wonder has a nice fold on one of his DVD's. I looked online but can't find the DVD that it was on.
Perhaps someone else knows.
It was economy in motion. Hand comes back, fingers fold and it's done. You get a 4 section instead of a 6 section fold, if I remember correctly.

I don't do anything with folded cards so I never pursued it beyond trying it out to see if it worked in my hands.  
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I just checked Smoke & Mirrors.  He calls it both "Creased Lightning Again" and "Creased Lightning 3".  It's an improved version of what's in Impossibilia.  (Just from skimming, it looks like the difference is in how he gets ready for the fold.)



Thank you for the info. I wasn't aware John had an updated handling.


Jim


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Tommy Wonder has a nice fold on one of his DVD's. I looked online but can't find the DVD that it was on.
Perhaps someone else knows.
It was economy in motion. Hand comes back, fingers fold and it's done. You get a 4 section instead of a 6 section fold, if I remember correctly.



Its a while since I've seen Tommys routine, but from what I remember it looked like the Mercury Fold he used.

Both the Mercury Fold and Creased Lightning result in the card being folded into four sections (quarters). Although a third fold could easily be added to either to get the card into sixths.


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I started playing with creased lightning last night. The first fold is really good (though I think you have to angle the deck downwards so you don't flash) but for the second fold, it's really tough for me to get the card to bend. I feel like I need to pry the middle of the card away from the bottom of the deck first.
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The second fold can be accomplished quite easily if you flex the deck, i.e., pull up on the short ends and push down in the middle.
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Indeed you are right!  Thanks, Bulla.

I just noticed that he mentions this idea in Impossibilia but not in his follow-up in Smoke and Mirrors.  I have to play with this some more, but I'm starting to think that this fold is superior to the MCF.  Not even Sankey can do the MCF (judging from his Paperclipped video) without making it clear that *something* just happened.  I suppose in real life, his misdirection might cover the move.
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Simon Lovell's card fold is nice.  It's done on the bottom of the deck and the card ends up folded in quarters with the back out.  It can be done quickly or slowly and has little to no noise.
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