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lopabrc

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I don't know if it is awkward to do this.  A shuffle the cut then shuffle.



I think that "awkward"  depends on context and what you are trying to communicate. E.g. If you want to convey the idea of chaos, maybe a false rossetta shuffle will fit, ala Lennart Green. In a pseudo gambling demo, where you are apparently stacking the deck and want to convey control over the cards, a false riffle shuffle is more appropriate. For casually sufflling while talking, then a false overhand shuffle fits nicely.  Some false shuffles are noisy, and that may be a good thing if not everybody can see you shuffling because they hear it anyway.t's difficult to asses a move isolated. I can think on contexts, where the sequence you show on video will fit, especially with some patter, an others that not. Try to find the right context for it.
Just my two cents.

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I meant regarding my GW Hunter shuffle.  Asking if a false cut mid GW Hunter made sense and was wondering if it was okay to do.  I didn't know if it was silly to shuffle again after you cut.  I think I read you always cut at the end and not end with shuffle.

I asked a friend of what he thought about the above video and he said he liked it fine but he would do an in-the-hands false cut instead of tabled.  I agree an in-the-hands one would be more versatile and probably look better.
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Jennifer, I didn't really care for the addition of a false cut.  It seems out of place to me.  Maybe during the flow of a routine and with some patter it might look better.  I agree that if you insist on adding a cut, then an in-the-hands false cut would probably be better.  I'd keep it simple, no multiple cuts, etc.  
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JenniferG

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Thanks RayJ.
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...I think I read you always cut at the end and not end with shuffle...


I think of the cut like a period at the end of a sentence. The cut telegraphs that the mixing of cards is done. So I would ditch the cut in the middle of two shuffles.

Also, your GW is convincing so I think slowing the sequence down with a cut, which breaks up the nice rhythm you have going, works against you. Will bring more focus to your hands than necessary.

There are probably some effects (gambling routines perhaps) where the cut in the middle aids the presentation, but I would suggest that for most card stuff, you are better off without it.

Put a cut at the end for that punctuation, if you feel it is needed.

-Al
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Trying something out.  I do half of the GW Hunter SHuffle, then a false cut, then finish the second half of the GW Hunter shuffle under the breather crimp (9D). 

I don't know if it is awkward to do this.  A shuffle the cut then shuffle. I am not experienced enough to know what's best but I read something recently somewhere about how many of each should be done and in what order but I forget what I read.  Looking for critique.  Thanks 😉

I was just thinking the false cut would help break up the GW Hunter Shuffle so it looks less like counting or whatever.




It's not awkward. I think it's a great idea to explore.
That said, my instinct is that I'm not sure it's necessary, might be a great addition to talk to a move monkey about, but not sure for a lay person.

Giving the impression you've really shuffled the cards is a huge part of a false shuffle, I guess the question is, do you think this adds to that (beyond what you've already done), and if so is it worth the break in rhythm?

For your other point about making it look less like counting, since you're using a breather crimp try the following ruse:

Do the first half of the shuffle, square up, put down the deck. Patter. Pick up the deck, complete the second half of the shuffle. The pause does what the false cut does. You may even consider doing the first half of the shuffle, the false cut, then square up and pause and patter. Whenever you're ready to perform do the second half of the shuffle and get back into it.
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JenniferG

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Thanks everyone for all the great ideas 😉
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