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Claudio

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There’s an effect I used to perform when I first started card magic. It’s very simple yet baffling to (most) lay audiences I can't remember where I learnt it from:

Aces, Kings, Queens and Jacks are removed openly.

Four piles are formed: King,Queen,Ace,Jack (x4) while pattering.

KQAJ                     KQAJ

KQAJ                     KQAJ

The patter I was taught at the time was something like:

In a saloon there were cow-boys, the 4 kings are dealt face up in four piles.

Two brunettes & 2 red-heads came into the saloon to keep them company. Queens are dealt face up on top.

But Indians attack the saloon. Aces are dealt.

And soon afterwards the cavalry comes to the rescue. Deal the Jacks.

Mayhem ensues. Gather the four piles, give the face-down packet a couple of Charlier shuffles followed by a couple of cuts by the audience.

Deal the cards into 4 face-down piles and turn them face up. Each packet contains a 4 of a kind.

So if you have information about this effect, please let me know.

Claudio

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Mike Powers

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Sounds like something that would be in RRTCM or a Fulves "Self-Working" booklet. 

This is one that is somewhat well known to lay people. I have had several people want to show me their magic trick and perform this one. They didn't do the Charlier. Just a bunch of cuts which, evidently, still seems to mix cards to lay people.

Another one that lay people sometimes know is the old robbers come to the top of the deck trick.

I think I'll start a thread on "tricks laypeople show magicians." I'm curious as to what you guys have seen in that regard. 

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Claudio

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Thanks Mike. It's definitely a beginner's trick and I was a beginner when I first learnt it. You're right about the Charlier shuffles. I added them at the time I got my very first magic book: ECT. It's one of the very few thinks from ECT I could do right off the bat. From a puzzle, the effect became a real fooler.

It would be great if someone could name any source.

Claudio
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Paul Hallas

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As I mentioned in a thread that sprang from this one (before I saw this), it's more commonly referred to as the Hotel trick. Probably goes back to the 1800's.

Shouldn't be confused with the OTHER "Hotel" trick started by Marlo and using sleights. That in itself has spawned lots of variations. This one just uses kings and queens and sometimes a joker too. Though there was a marketed variant put out by Larry West decades ago that was non sleight ( a double f ) and cartoon cards, "Shaggy Dog Tail".  Pictures of the cards can be seen here [smile] :
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Shaggy-Dog-Tail-Larry-West-/131462334193?hash=item1e9bc406f1:g:nnUAAOSwEeFVDOia

Funny how sometimes in magic different effects are referred to with the same name."The Princess Card Trick" is another that can refer to two completely different tricks. 


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ErdnaseVernon

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I first learned this trick as the "House of cards hotel" trick from a clearance magic book at books a million called Practical Magic by Nigel Anderson.  Was the first magic book I bought when I started learning, My kids still like to see that trick with the horror movie patter I came up with to make it "Cards at the Bates motel" haha
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Claudio

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Paul & Steve, thanks for the references.

I have received a little more  information about this. It was described in Ellis Stanyon's Best Card Tricks as The Roadside Inn as well as in Gerry Griffin's Complete Card Magic DVD, Volume one. He calls it Cowboys and Indians.

Inn/hotel or cowboys & Indians stories seem the most frequent.
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Robin Dawes

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Originally Posted by ErdnaseVernon

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My kids still like to see that trick with the horror movie patter I came up with to make it "Cards at the Bates motel" haha


Ok that's just awesome.
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