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Hi guys, this is a killer from The Card Magic of Nick Trost. I bought this trick individually as a dealer item years ago. For 5 bucks i got a one page manuscript- and I couldn't have been happier.
All you need is a regular deck in Si Stebbins and thats it. No sleight of hand. 100% self working, the deck does it all. Just spell out the spectators' answers and watch the lie detector work!
The final card arrived at is of course, the selection.
Simply amazing.
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Thanks for sharing that magicfish! I have "Subtle Card Creations" here in my hands. I wonder if this trick is in any of his books. I'd love to see it.
I also wonder if it lends itself to being performed with a memorized deck.

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Hi Rudy. The effect can be found in The Card Magic of Nick Trost.
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Hi Rudy. The effect can be found in The Card Magic of Nick Trost.


Oops. How stupid of me. You said that quite plainly [crazy]

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It is called The Automatic Lie Speller p. 155
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  And if you like lie-detector effects you've gotta' check out my THAT'S THE TRUTH! in JAW DROPPERS! It's entirely impromptu and a real "jaw dropper." A quote from Doug Edwards - "I'll be using this for the rest of my life!"  And from another magician friend - "Boy, if this isn't 'worth the price of the book,' I don't know what is." Check it out and let me know what you think. (It's as I said "impromptu," it's different, it's something your audiences will remember and talk about. Forgive the raving about my own thing, but it's an amazing any-deck, any time, anywhere, impromptu effect. So there!)

    And if you feel like it, go back some years (or perhaps a decade or more) and check out my effect, Voice Print - another impromptu lie-detector effect. Also check out an item of Peter Duffie's that I published (in APOCALYPSE, I believe - things are starting to blend!) done with nine cards, and strong it is. (Vlad, I think that's an item you love - can you pinpoint its location?)
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This trick works very well in english but unfortunately not in french.

Red, black, spade, clubs, hearts (the exception) and diamond are odds and rouge, noir, pique, trèfle, coeur and carreau are either odd or even and I didn't find a consistent way to make this work in french.

Any suggestion to make this trick work in another language like french ?
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  And if you like lie-detector effects you've gotta' check out my THAT'S THE TRUTH! in JAW DROPPERS! It's entirely impromptu and a real "jaw dropper." A quote from Doug Edwards - "I'll be using this for the rest of my life!"  And from another magician friend - "Boy, if this isn't 'worth the price of the book,' I don't know what is." Check it out and let me know what you think. (It's as I said "impromptu," it's different, it's something your audiences will remember and talk about. Forgive the raving about my own thing, but it's an amazing any-deck, any time, anywhere, impromptu effect. So there!)

    And if you feel like it, go back some years (or perhaps a decade or more) and check out my effect, Voice Print - another impromptu lie-detector effect. Also check out an item of Peter Duffie's that I published (in APOCALYPSE, I believe - things are starting to blend!) done with nine cards, and strong it is. (Vlad, I think that's an item you love - can you pinpoint its location?)
Harry, I tried using Denis Behr's archive to find the Peter Duffie trick that you're referring to and looked at every trick of his that appears in the black volume, but none of them match your description. I hope Vlad_77 will chime in and point me in the right direction. I'm intrigued!

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   Okay; just checked it out. That Peter Duffie effect is called Cal-Q-Lator and it's in BEST OF FRIENDS, Volume 3.  And, while I'm "at it" check out my effect, Spel(l)Egant in APOCALYPSE (April 1997 issue, page 2773). I think that's the one that's one of Vlad's favorites.
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I haven't bought Jaw Droppers yet but an interesting lie detector trick can be found in The Classic Magic of Larry Jennings.  The deck is set up right in front of the spectators because you're "programing" the deck and the interesting thing is the cards that tell whether the spectator is lying or not are the bottom cards of the dealt piles which makes the stack a bit smaller than many lie detector effects.  I think the trick is simply called Lie Detector.  I'm at work so I can't check right now.
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   Okay; just checked it out. That Peter Duffie effect is called Cal-Q-Lator and it's in BEST OF FRIENDS, Volume 3.  And, while I'm "at it" check out my effect, Spel(l)Egant in APOCALYPSE (April 1997 issue, page 2773). I think that's the one that's one of Vlad's favorites.
Thanks Harry! I'll check these out in the morning!

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Peter Duffie has come up with lot's of lie Detector routines and Harry's "That's The Truth" with the push throughs in "Jawdroppers" is more like Peter Duffie's "The Ultimate Truth" on p.84 of his book "Duffie's Card Compulsions" which was a favorite of mine when I first came across it as a packet trick lie detector. Harry has certainly taken it further making it completely impromptu and I've been playing with Harry's myself. 

For the record, Aldo Colombini described Peter's routine on one of his packet trick DVD collections but the set up there is incorrect and allows for an occasional error. The routine is correctly described in Peter's book.

John Carey's "Bluff Lie Detector" from his book "Minimalistica  also uses the push throughs repeatedly to narrow down to the selected card  but unlike the previously mentioned routines doesn't reveal other information along the way.

Any of these routines (though Harry's is the better) could be used in any language because the lie detector plot is retained without you having to spell anything.

I must admit to liking my own impromptu lie detector handling in my book "Magic From The Overground" (p.172) and Cameron Francis's packet trick version, "Nothing But The Truth" is very commercial (though you have to force a card and have limited options).

The repeated packet push throughs in the first routines mentioned, especially when information is being revealed, add a novelty value to the effect.

I do recall using the Trost Stebbins version decades ago though cannot remember the details of it now, and never used it in professional performances.  I no longer have that book, must have mistakenly culled it from my collection.

Lie Detector is a great plot. 



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Thanks magicfish for reminding me of that one.  That Trost book is loaded with good ideas.  Since you reminded me that it uses a Stebbins set up, I thought I'd mention  Darwin Ortiz has an entry in "At the Card Table" called 'The Si Stebbins Secret'.  It reveals an easy and quick Stebbins set up from NDO.  It does require two faro shuffles, but it's a real nice way to get to the Stebbins deck.
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An excellent version by Simon Aronson can by found in The Legendary Heirophant.
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There are many lie detector software are available . I have bought a lie detector product here 

https://www.lie-detector.info/details.html

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Harry Lorayne wrote: "And if you feel like it, go back some years (or perhaps a decade or more) and check out my effect, Voice Print - another impromptu lie-detector effect."

Harry, Voice Print is a perennial "go to" effect for me - It's so much fun to perform! For years I performed it just as you taught, but over the years I have modified it to allow for greater interaction. I always have a blast with that trick. Always!

FYI, it's to be found in Best of Friends (Volume 1) at page 256.  
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   I may - repeat, may - after ONLY MY APOCALYPSE becomes available - do ONLY MY BEST OF FRIENDS (sub-title JAW DROPPERS, Vol. 2!). Reason I mention it is that Voice Print will definitely be in that volume.

   I still use it. But Anthony, if you like lie detector effects, check out That's The Truth! in JAW DROPPERS! You'll love it!
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I use Harry's Voice Print. Used it in three sets this past week end and it was a favorite. Impromptu, fast and perfectly climactic up to the finish. Very strong effect. Had a wide spread audience for it each time as well.
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There's a good one in Aldo Colombini's Impromptu tapes by Peter Duffie which I didn't know of with the eliminating of cards throughout the routine. Here's a video of it that I just did. 
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