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KenTheriot

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I've used Turbo Stick in more modern close-up settings for a couple of years. But I have not used it for my medieval group because I'm trying to keep to more period magic.

I recently read something saying that paddle tricks are mentioned are far back as The Discoverie of Witchcraft. I don't remember ever seeing that. Does anyone know where I can find references to paddle tricks prior to 1650?

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I can't give much help with the references you asked for, but Antony Gerard says there is a mention in Prevost (1584).  Prevost was French but I think an English translation is available.

The first paddle trick I owned was "I'll Start Again" which just uses a wooden paddle painted black and a piece of chalk - it seems plausible for any historical period.
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And, "I'll Start Again" - made famous, if not invented by, Jimmy Rogers - was the precursor to the Turbo Stick!

What, with the venerable table knife paddle trick, I would imagine the paddle move has been around for eons. It's inconceivable that someone hasn't taken the time to research and document the move's history. 

Ken, have you considered posting this question on the Genii Forum? There are oodles of "magical historians" who regularly visit and post there. I'm guessing you might have more luck over there in this case.

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I think Dr. Sacks' Dice Routine should be included in the list of applications of the paddle move. 

The application may have originated in the 20th century, but dice have been around for millennia and could fit in a "period costume" performance for just about any period.

BTW, Bob Farmer's revised and expanded "Beat 'Em, Cheat 'Em, Leave 'Em Bleeding" contains some brilliant monte ideas based on the Sacks technique.
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And, "I'll Start Again" - made famous, if not invented by, Jimmy Rogers - was the precursor to the Turbo Stick!

What, with the venerable table knife paddle trick, I would imagine the paddle move has been around for eons. It's inconceivable that someone hasn't taken the time to research and document the move's history. 

Ken, have you considered posting this question on the Genii Forum? There are oodles of "magical historians" who regularly visit and post there. I'm guessing you might have more luck over there in this case.

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No I haven't, Anthony. I'm not a member of that forum. thanks for the tip?
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Thanks everyone!
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