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Norman

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Greetings to all from BC Canada.
My name is Norm and I am a retired close up enthusiast who has spent a ton of money in the past buying everything I could to further my hobby.

I am now in the process of sorting all this stuff out probably in the preparation of selling it all off?


I came across a padlock routine with no instructions?? Called Paramount lock routine.

All I have on it is a single piece of paper, with the usual patter of getting spectators to try to open it.

There are no instructions but here is what it is:

It's a heavy padlock with 6 keys. 2 keys will open it but the keys are NOT cut identical? The other 4 keys do not open it?

I have not been able to work out if the lock itself is gimmicked or what the routine is??

By the way, I also have Keyrrect which is a great piece of equipment.

Any help greatly appreciated.
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Hey Norman, and welcome to the forum.

The keys need not be identical. If it is a six-pin capacity padlock, only three or four cylinders may contain pins and springs. Then, only four of the cuts need match, rather than all six. That way the keys may well appear to be cut differently. 

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Thank you Anthony

However, no matter what I do, only 2 of the keys actually open the lock?

I thought the effect was similar to Keyrrect where after the lock was set (and I don't know how to do that? )that any key would open the lock???

Do you know what the effect really is?

Problem is, I have lost the paperwork describing the effect and how to set it up?

Thanks again

NORM
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No, I do not know the exact trick you describe. It sounds like some version of The Seven Keys to Baldpate effect. It's a tough routine to make entertaining.

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Thanks again for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it















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I see that someone at the green place started a thread years ago about an ebay listing for this product.

Someone called "finmag" (possibly involved with producing it?) pops into the thread years later to answer a few questions here.
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Hi Norm

I can't help unlock the mystery of your lock, but I am happy to welcome another Canadian to the Forum.  What part of BC are you from?  I grew up in Victoria - moved east in 1979.  In 1992-93 I lived in Vancouver and was active in the Vancouver Magic Circle.  I'm wondering if we ever met or have any friends in common from those days.

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Norman

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Hi Chris, thank you for your response, that is helpful indeed! I will check the link and get back to you, thanks again.

Hi Robin, I am a Kelowna resident and attended a couple of functions with Vancouver magic circle many years ago
Really good to meet you both

Norm
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Oops, I forgot to say:

Welcome to the forum, Norman!
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Thank you very much
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More than 30 years ago I bought an effect called Penta-Lock by Repro Magic. In it you have a lock "guarding" a transparent frame (where you can keep a bill) and 5 keys. In one position no key opens the lock and in another position all the keys open the lock. Of course the magician is the only one who can open the lock at the end. No need to say that the lock is gimmicked. I don't know if they still make this lock or if Repro Magic is still in business. Maybe someone from the UK could let us know.  I don't remember how much I paid for it.

Another lock I own is the Larry Lock. This is a combination lock, that means no keys are involved. You can see some characteristics here: 

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S21085




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Thank you Luigimar

Bingo, that's probably where I got this all those years ago...… I lived in Brighton, Sussex and used to buy lots of stuff from Geoff at Repro Magic.

Do you perhaps the instructions to set this lock??? 

Thanks again


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Sorry but I don't own the Paramount lock, I only have the two that I mentioned above, Pentalock and the Larry Lock. 



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I used to know a Norm when I had a shop in BC, but then everybody knew Norm and I am thinking you are not that Norm who inherited Canada's oldest Magic shop along with Steve?
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...… I lived in Brighton, Sussex .........

Norm


Such a small world: my grandmother lived in Saltdean, Sussex and we used to visit Brighton on holidays (especially the pier).  That would be 50 years ago.
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No I am not that Norman but great to meet u anyway  
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