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I have been hired by a company to do some strolling magic for a party this weekend. The thing is they have already hired 6 other magicians for the same night. That's seven of us walking around doing strolling magic for about 120 people. They want every table to have a magician performing as much as possible. The only problem is they won't give me any information about the other magicians hired for the night, so I have no idea what they'll be performing. 

I usually work parties of that size by myself, so I have a pretty good set of material for strolling. Unfortunately, with six other magicians performing in the same room the odds are incredibly high that spongeballs and ambitious cards will be flying all over the place.

My question is: would you perform your regular routines (the stuff you are really good at) and if the crowd sees two different coins across routines (and other tricks) from two magicians then so be it? Or would you specifically throw it all to the wind and try to learn some crazy new stuff?

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Wow. That's certainly not an enviable position.

As an amateur I have no pertinent advice about material, but I do have a suggestion. Have you considered posting your message on the local (or the nearest) IBM or SAM websites and social media pages? Perhaps you could at least contact one or two of the others and insulate one another that way?

I do find it curious that the employer hired seven magicians and refuses to understand how putting them in touch with one another would only serve to enhance their investment. Ah well...

Best of luck, and I do hope you will let us know how you worked things out!

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Get there early.  Talk with the others when you meet them.  And get ready to improvise; the world does not need seven forms of Coins Across performed at each table.  (And I would not try crazy new stuff for them; they're not guinea pigs.)
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Always good to learn magic that no one else is doing.
Or at least come up with your own presentation.
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Steve's advice is the usual approach to this kind of situation, you should be able to talk to these other performers beforehand and maybe hang and session a little afterwards. you might make some new magical friendships.

The most close uppers I worked with at a HUGE function in Birmingham U.K was twenty. Regularly worked with half a dozen or more at Manchester United.

To be honest, 7 performers for 120 people is overkill. You certainly need to coordinate, decide who's doing which tables first (dividing the room up )so you're  not tripping over each other. Unless they have seven large tables and one magician per table.

I used to do a quick sketch of the room (table arrangement) on the back of my business card and cross off the tables when I'd done them. It helps make sure you don't miss anyone. 

I used to work with John Hotowka a lot and we'd split the room in to two and do half each, before crossing over if we needed to/had time.

Always preferred round tables to long tables. 

Have fun. Since moving to the USA in 2004 I've only shared a close up event with another performer once!

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I agree with those above that note that their must be coordination between performers so that one does not do what another (or several others) already did (or will do.)

 

I was fortunate once when following another magician, I asked a woman to lend me her ring and I posted what’s below on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum on March 1, 2009:

 

3          Ring Toss Away

 

            This is Joe Monti’s idea.

 

A woman is asked to lend you her ring. You look at it, frown and then throw it against the wall (substituting a coin for the ring) Then you reach into your pocket and find the ring which you return.

 

(I was doing “walk around” magic for a charity with several other magicians and I asked for a ring and the woman gave it to me and, as she did, she said that the magician before me just made her ring go on his key chain. I looked surprised, then disappointed as I said, “Really?” and then, as I said, “Well, we’ll do something else—“ I tossed her ring (a nickel) against the wall.

 

(Before she could get mad, I reached into my pocket and returned the ring.)

 


             
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David Acer and Richard Sanders do a thing where they each have a different spectator select a card and when it comes time to reveal the cards, they get it backward. Acer will have the card from Sanders spectator and vice versa. 
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A woman is asked to lend you her ring. You look at it, frown and then throw it against the wall (substituting a coin for the ring) Then you reach into your pocket and find the ring which you return.

 (Before she could get mad, I reached into my pocket and returned the ring.)

             



Very important you don't blow the switch and accidentally throw the ring.... [smile] [smile]

I couldn't get away with this kind of thing, and since some people don't have a sense of humor I'm sure not all would find it funny, the ring may be worth thousands. 

I used to do Ring in Salt and Grinda Ring a lot years back but haven't used borrowed rings for years. Make sure you have liability insurance if you do. 


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Very important you don't blow the switch and accidentally throw the ring.... [smile] [smile]

I couldn't get away with this kind of thing, and since some people don't have a sense of humor I'm sure not all would find it funny, the ring may be worth thousands. 

I used to do Ring in Salt and Grinda Ring a lot years back but haven't used borrowed rings for years. Make sure you have liability insurance if you do. 




Paul is right.

Some thoughts:

1  You have to know your audience. When I borrow a ring from a woman I quickly size up that woman.

2  I've heard a story of a magician vanishing and then reproducing a borrowed ring only to have the woman say, "That's not my ring."

3  I've done the "watch steal" for years but only with a strap watch. Slydini showed how to do it with an expansion band watch but I'm not confident that the band will always expand as much as I need it to and not break.

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Magic should always be lots of fun

And the magician should never have to run






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Thanks to all of you! I'm definitely leery of touching anyone's jewelry, so I don't do ring flite or anything like it. 

The multi-magician gig went off well. We all managed to talk for a few minutes before we began and surprisingly enough only three effects were potentially going to be performed by multiple magicians. Otherwise, everyone came ready to go with their own stuff and it was easy to drop and move around the three things others wanted. 

The beauty of it was how much like "The Avengers" it seemed. Everyone came in with their own specialty to add to the team. One guy was a mentalist, one guy was a kid's magician specialist, I concentrated on coins, another one went with the classics (Professor's Nightmare, spongeballs, etc), and so forth. As a whole, we managed to provide the crowd with an incredibly well-rounded magic experience that night. I'm really hoping I get booked again there next year with them!

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Sounds like a great gig. Hope you get it next year as well.
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Thanks to all of you! I'm definitely leery of touching anyone's jewelry, so I don't do ring flite or anything like it. 

The multi-magician gig went off well. We all managed to talk for a few minutes before we began and surprisingly enough only three effects were potentially going to be performed by multiple magicians. Otherwise, everyone came ready to go with their own stuff and it was easy to drop and move around the three things others wanted. 

The beauty of it was how much like "The Avengers" it seemed. Everyone came in with their own specialty to add to the team. One guy was a mentalist, one guy was a kid's magician specialist, I concentrated on coins, another one went with the classics (Professor's Nightmare, spongeballs, etc), and so forth. As a whole, we managed to provide the crowd with an incredibly well-rounded magic experience that night. I'm really hoping I get booked again there next year with them!

Wow, I did not expect that ending to the story!  That's really awesome... and somewhat miraculous.

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I did a gig last night with one other magician for over 1,000 people! We could have easily accommodated 3-4 more magicians! 
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I wanted to add that one of the funniest ideas I've heard for occasions when there's another magician present (also working the tables) is the one I explained here:
http://www.themagiciansforum.com/post/really-funny-simon-lovell-idea-8053959

I still want to try this someday!

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I've performed with a few friends when we've been out at the bars, and sometimes we would hit random tables and other times, almost felt like tag team at a single table.  We would each do one routine, then alternate.  Each of us did slightly different stuff, and always had good reactions.

When at Abbott's Magic Get Together in Colon, MI, I've also performed at Curly's with several other magicians for the local people eating there.  Again, each of us has specialties or unique variations on routines so the people have always enjoyed watching us perform.  However, I sometime will see if the other magicians are all doing coins and cards, I break out the ropes and other stuff, just so I don't perform the same thing they did.

It sure is fun to perform with other magicians.

SpareTopChange, I have also performed something similar to what your link above mentions.  I've also had a friend that would perform a routine and after failing to find the card, at just the right moment I walk in the room and my friend turns and said, "Hey Tom, what's the name of their selected card?"  Then after seeing what I need to, I name it.  We use the Hungry Jackass stack.  "Jackass ate a live tree...".  But any would work if both knew whatever stack was being used.  It's definitely fun to do this.

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