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danielvanm

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Hi everyone,

On page 68 in Mnemonica there's a trick called prediction a la kraskal. In the notes it says if you give the picture cards value 1 it also works, easy for me because it's pretty weird to ask to spell cards in English when you speak Dutch. I tried it, in the first fase it does work but in the second fase I arrive at the 7 of clubs.. Any idea what I'm doing wrong anyone?

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In one of my books I teach how to remember cards along with everything else.
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I'm not sure what you're doing wrong because I'm getting the 7 of clubs too.  Maybe it was only meant to work out for the first phase.  I did find out that if you displace the 7 of clubs to the bottom of the undealt packet of cards you're holding after the first phase then the rest of the effect should work out fine.
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Thanks Bulla!

Will try that later! [smile]

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I don't use this stack, but I set up my deck in Mnemonica and tried the effect exactly as described in Mnemonica and it works fine for me every time, i.e. I end on the 10D which is the second card from last in that 2nd phase. 
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Hey Claudio,

Do you do it so the pictures count as 1 or do you spell the cards?

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Daniel, I use the method as described in M. ie: j.a.c.k & k.i.n.g (4) and q.u.e.e.n (5)

I missed that part (counting 1 for figures [redface]). I'll try again!
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OK. Got it, I also read note III in Mnemonica about pictures set to 1. I end up on 7C too. As the constrast 9C/7C is no good (as opposed to 9C/10D), then some adjustment is required, as Bulla suggested.

Am I right in thinking that in Dutch:

Boer   = Jack
Vrouw = Queen
Heer   = King

If that's the case, then the effect should work unchanged. I started phases 1 and 2 from every figure (spelling them in Dutch) and you do reach the target card.

Good luck.
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OK. Got it, I also read note III in Mnemonica about pictures set to 1. I end up on 7C too. As the constrast 9C/7C is no good (as opposed to 9C/10D), then some adjustment is required, as Bulla suggested.

Am I right in thinking that in Dutch:

Boer   = Jack
Vrouw = Queen
Heer   = King

If that's the case, then the effect should work unchanged. I started phases 1 and 2 from every figure (spelling them in Dutch) and you do reach the target card.

Good luck.

Your translation is O.K. The only thing to be added is that with the King we've got two possibilities, you can use either Heer or Koning.


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The originator of the principle is Kruskal rather than Kraskal. That may help in searches.
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OK. Got it, I also read note III in Mnemonica about pictures set to 1. I end up on 7C too. As the constrast 9C/7C is no good (as opposed to 9C/10D), then some adjustment is required, as Bulla suggested.

Am I right in thinking that in Dutch:

Boer   = Jack
Vrouw = Queen
Heer   = King

If that's the case, then the effect should work unchanged. I started phases 1 and 2 from every figure (spelling them in Dutch) and you do reach the target card.

Good luck.


Thanks Claudio! How stupid I didn't take the effort to check rather it's also possible in my own language! So problem solved [smile]

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Thanks Claudio! How stupid I didn't take the effort to check rather it's also possible in my own language! So problem solved [smile]


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