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Paul Hallas

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A number of versions of this plot were mentioned elsewhere (but I couldn't find the thread), but recently came across this one I hadn't seen before. 


Another gem I'm thinking of re-introducing for small stand up shows is Bob Farmer's version "The Meaning of Impossible" which appeared in the August 1986 issue of Genii magazine. Worth tracking down.  
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I really like this sequence. The instant vanish looks great. Of course the big drawback is that the "signed card" can't be examined or handed out at the end. I think I'd have the card really signed rather than using a sticker. Then you can use the old ploy of having a box of "old cards" with spectators' signatures that you keep as souvenirs. When you put the card into the box, you show other "autographs" including a few famous people etc. That gets it out of play and gives you a rational for keeping it.

I'll check out the Bob Farmer item in Genii. I don't recall seeing it. Of course that was over 30 years ago. Bob must be really old!! (I, however, am older than Bob. Yikes!)

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I really like Darwin Ortiz's Psychotronic Card from the book Cardshark...and not that hard to do either.
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I've got a much better version of this plot which I would be happy top post as a pdf here if someone could explain to me how to do that.

I didn't care for the routine above: the spectator has to sign the card to make this effective. I use this line: let's say Bill has signed the two of diamonds. I say, "In the entire universe there is only ONE Bill of diamonds and that's it right there." This really sells the absolute rarity and uniqueness of the signed card and makes it personal to the person signing.
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Originally Posted by Mike Powers
I really like this sequence. The instant vanish looks great. Of course the big drawback is that the "signed card" can't be examined or handed out at the end. I think I'd have the card really signed rather than using a sticker. Then you can use the old ploy of having a box of "old cards" with spectators' signatures that you keep as souvenirs. When you put the card into the box, you show other "autographs" including a few famous people etc. That gets it out of play and gives you a rational for keeping it.

I'll check out the Bob Farmer item in Genii. I don't recall seeing it. Of course that was over 30 years ago. Bob must be really old!! (I, however, am older than Bob. Yikes!)

Mike


I agree, Mike, I'd rather have that card examinable at the conclusion and you could probably do that, but then the vanish wouldn't be as instant. 

I like the fact the vanish is retained as in Hamman's routine to give you two moments of magic, and the vanish here is better (instant) but the trade off is gaffs. I see this as a more formal close up piece. 

I'm sure you'll like Bob's routine when you find it, Mike. 

Yes, Logan Psychotronic is good and not that hard to do. Paul Gordon has some versions of that. John Carey has also published several good simple versions of the mystery card plot.

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John Guastafero's "Mr. E Takes a Stroll" is a nice version too. Sort of Dr. Daley's Last Trick meets Hamman's Signed Card.

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John Bannon contributed a strange, but remarkably delightful version of the effect in a recent issue of Genii. It was May issue, I believe. He called it A Brunette, a Redhead, and a Perfect Stranger... It's relatively simple to perform, and elicits an oversized reaction from spectators I have been having a great deal of fun with it. 
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I was inspired by Monsieur Vallarino...



The password is Vallarino.

Apologies to those who speak French and in fact apologies to everyone...

BTW I do think this is a very workable method.

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That was fun - You perfectly channeled Jean Pierre!
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Merci, Mike. You have too much free time, lol. 
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It was fun making the video. But also I solved the problem with the original routine and ended with a signed card that can be give out. It's very workable and can reset quickly.

I'm starting to like this routine!

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Here's my routine.pdf The Magic Red Card of Mystery-Revised Vanish.pdf     
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Thanks for sharing, Bob, that's neat. Love your take on the vanish.

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Here's my routine.pdf The Magic Red Card of Mystery-Revised Vanish.pdf     


Hi Bob

The original was great - I love this revised version too.

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I'm happy with Brother John's "The Signed Card."
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I agree James. It's the grand daddy of all these routines and remains one of the best. Brother John taught this at a John Mendoza convention in the 1980's I believe it was. It was certainly the trick of the convention. He fooled everyone and really knocked us out with the routine. It was not published until a year or two later, so we had a truly underground miracle for a while. Love it!

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I should add, Bob's routine I initially referred to is NOT the one he shared with us [smile]
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Yes, Paul is correct. The routine he is referring to used a dictionary and a switch at the end, however, I think that routine is inferior to the one I posted. I also used some principles from that routine in the posted effect.
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I like this one you posted right here.
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Just for fun, Jon Racherbaumer had an interesting take on the mystery card plot called The Phantom Time Traveller. I read it in the Personally Speaking section of an old, 90's era, Steven's Magic catalog. I'm not sure if it appears anywhere else.
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Love to find out where the Racherbaumer item is?? Anyone know? 

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@Mike. It's called "The future ain't what it used to be" and can be found in Card Finesse II. The Steven's article is where I first learned it, almost twenty years ago, so apologies for the incorrect title. I've used it for formal close up shows and it is a killer.
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Thanks Bob, looks interesting.
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Thanks for the Racherbaumer reference. I'll check it out in the morning. Meanwhile, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

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Awake now..

I checked out "The Future Ain't What it Used to Be." Very nice item. But the trick following this one, Time-Warp Sandwich, got my attention even more. I like it better. There's a mystery card and then two selections. The black jacks find one selection via sandwich. Then the mystery card is revealed to be the other selection. Very deceptive and clean.

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Here's another version, "The Last Trick of Dr. Jacob Hamman."

 
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I posted this on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum on July 1, 2008

 

“I Just Bought A New Card Trick”

 

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“I just bought a new card trick. It’s so complicated. I don’t really understand it. Here, select a card.”

 

The spectator selects a card.

 

“Okay, here’s a pen. Put a big ‘X’ on the face of the card but don’t’ let me see it. Good. Now put the card back into the deck.  Now I’m going to shuffle the deck as fairly as I can. Okay. Now I’m going to find your card.”

 

The magician looks through the cards with the faces towards him and pulls out the selected card with the big “X”.

 

The spectator’s look at him as if he was an idiot.

 

“This is easy to understand,” says the magician. “But why they had all the cards marked with an ‘X’ doesn’t make any sense to me.”

 

The magician shows all the cards have an “X”

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Gerald: I love what I'd call "X Spots the Mark."  I'd do it this way: corner short the force card. Have the spectator shuffle the deck. Take it back, then get the card into position for force. Then he shuffles it again.

Or how about this:

You have half the deck with no Xs and half with.

Cut the deck in half, and place all the X'd cards faced own in a row on the table.

Hand the other, unmarked half, to the spectator and tell him to shuffle the cards look at them and remove one. He can change his mind. Make a big deal about him looking at the cards, perhaps showing them to others to get to a selection. 

He takes the card, you take that half back and hand him a Sharpie.

You turn your back and tell him to draw a big X on the face of his card and then slide it into the cards on the table.

As all attention is on this, you switch the cards with no marks, for a half that is marked.

You turn around, add that half to the half on the table and then shuffle the deck, pointing out it will be very difficult to find the card.

Now end as noted.

This is an idea based on Horace Bennett's, "Paleface Cards." There the selection is the only card in the deck that isn't blank.

I've performed Bennett's trick numerous times and there is so much misdirection built in, the switch is never seen. I just put my left hand in a pocket, dictching the cards and then removed the other half from my right hand pocket. Never got caught. 
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I used to perform Jack Carpenter's Mysterious (which was one of the first (if not the first) mashup of Hamman's signed card with Daley LCT).

I loved the construction and enjoyed performing it but after years I went back to the Hamman handling.

I think somehow the combination subtracted from each by confusing the clarity of plot. Maybe a better presenter could have managed it, but having listened to the audience doing the tricks separately got massively better reactions than the combination.

I will try the Farmer and Guastaferro versions mentioned above, but I suspect that I'll come to the same conclusion because it's the combination of the plots that caused me the problem rather than any weaknesses in Carpenter's handling.
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