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Fiddleman

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Hi I'm wondering if anyone can help me, I'm not a magician but a musician and I am trying to get the effect of smoke coming from my instrument as I play...i would like the device to be
*Reasonably small
*Reasonably quiet
*And remote controlled (as my hands with be busy)
*Produced from a tube would be useful too
I plan to set it off with my foot
Has anyone any devices they would recommend? I found VAPR online but it seems to be discontinued..
Thanks :)
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What instrument?  Fiddle?
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I'm kinda psychic that way.  Where's Mark Lewis?  Anyway, I used to do a little fiddle repair and the sound holes don't give you a lot of room, but you don't want to be hitting the soundpost either.  Some smoke units do use tubing and some don't. With you being a musician and not a magician, a word of warning... if you buy something and it doesn't work for what you need, you're stuck.  You're buying "secrets" and most dealers won't refund unless broken.  You could go to penguinmagic.com and tell them the story and see what they suggest, with units going $100 or more you want to get the correct unit for what you need.  Maybe someone on the board has knowledge of these units, I've never had one.
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If it's for stage, your best bet is Lukas' Somke Grande. Puts out a good amount of smoke and is remote controlled.
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please keep in mind, there are some smoke gimmicks out there that use some pretty wicked chemicals and can damage your fiddle. So make sure the one you purchase doesn't use those.   Others use dry Ice which is probably fine.   I just don't want to see you ruining your fiddle for a cool rendition of  The Devil Went Down to Georgia.

Also if you determine that the smoke is not harmful to the fiddle.  Be careful where you place it.  You certainly don't want to be breathing in any chemicals.  Especially on stage, can make for an interesting performance. 

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Welcome to the forum Fiddler!

The magical appearance of smoke is somewhat of a holy grail for magicians. Some of my greatest disappointments have come from this pursuit.

Consider yourself fortunate VAPR is sold out. I own one and the amount of smoke it produces is the musicale equivalent of pianissimo.

I’m thinking you’d prefer forte.)

Here’s an idea, a simple solution that may deliver the effect you desire.

Shopping list:

A reliable vape pen that actives when a breath is drawn
Quake-hold
12 inches of ⅜” copper tubing (approx
2 Small zip ties
6 — ½” neodymium magnets
A furniture scratch concealing marker
A ¾” cube of black foam rubber
A/B metal epoxy putty
Black or brown electrical tape

A Hardware store will have all of these items with the exception of the pen.

With any luck, a magnet will stick to the vape pen.
If not, a metal a/b epoxy putty will do the job.

Zip tie the tube around the vape pen to secure the tubing along its length. Make a slight bend at the tube’s “mouthpiece” so you can easily draw a big hit from the vape ( since you’re a musician, there’s a good chance you are well-practiced at this.) 🤪
I would, however, recommend a Non-nicotine, lightly flavored cartridge. I’m talking really big hit and you don’t want to cough up a lung while you’re trying to pull off the effect.

Make two 1” balls of Quakehold and nest magnet discs in the center, as you flatten the balls. The magnets should fully contact and attract the pen and tube gimmick— one stuck to the side of the lower bout, the other on the back of the fiddle.

Without kinking the tube, form it to travel under the left bout so that it runs under the back of the fiddle body and terminates just where the neck meets the upper bout. Curve the tube upward at that point so that it terminates just below the bottom string leaving room for your left thumb. Use the epoxy putty to adhere a magnet to the tube and another blob of Quakehold with a magnet in the center to secure the tube in place against the back.

Performance:

Neodymium magnets are exceptionally strong. Be precise with the positioning.

Set the Vape pen / tube apparatus atop an amp. With the magnets facing up. Move the fiddle away from your body to the amp and the magnets will grab the gimmick. All the dirty work of attachment takes place away from your body.

Here, you will quite naturally display the innocent side and top of the violin to the audience as you begin your solo.

This solution will allow you wander the stage, Free from the need to use a footpedal to activate the smoke.

Just as you’re really starting to cook, turn slightly away from the audience and take a deep hit. The longer a vapor is held in the lungs, the quicker it dissipates. So, don’t hold too long. You’ll only need to rotate your head slightly left on the chin rest to blow the smoke through the tube. Again, turn slightly away from the audience. Their attention will be focused on your fingering and bowing… Gently exhale into the tube.

Take the fiddle away from your chin and use the neck to create some turbulence in the appearing cloud. You should be able to repeat this miracle twice without detection.

Don’t be in too big a hurry to remove the apparatus. This can be done surreptitiously after you’ve concluded your solo and his best executed while the audience is focused on another performer.
Quake-hold is a white putty. You should be able to color it with a furniture repair marker to match your instrument. If the small pancakes don’t have a detrimental effect on the resonance, you may choose to have the body magnets in place well before-hand.

Cut a small block of foam rubber and tape it to the exit end of the tube so that it creates a diffuser.

You might also wrap the copper tube in black or brown electrical tape and circle a few extra layers to form a mouthpiece.

I don’t have to tell a musician how Important it is to practice. This is where you will be able to fine-tune the apparatus. I would suggest videotaping the effect from an audience point of view to help with blocking and timing. Soon you’ll have all the required moves broken down to key 16th notes within the tune.

If this is the route you choose to go, I’d love to see a vid of the result.

All the best!

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Fiddleman

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Thank you sooo much for being so generous with your time to help...brilliant help!!
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Bruce Kalver sells something called TSG (The Smoke Gimmick) :  https://www.brucekalver.com/product-page/tsg-the-smoke-gimmick
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