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Duke

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I have watched magicians dry-split cards and do it so well. After tearing thru the edges so often, and after getting great results by soaking, I won't bother with dry.

Other than time to soak and dry, I see no advantage.

Are there any other considerations?

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I reckon if you’ve been more happy with the wet method results, and time is not an issue, go for it, Duke! I mentioned in the other post that I’ve been happy with the dry method, but I’ll give the wet method a burl next time. You never know when one process might have an advantage in a particular situation. I was wondering if any residual glue in the dry process (described by Ray) might affect either the smoothness or critical thickness of the gaffed card in some effects. I do enjoy playing with making gaffs..I find it relaxing! My latest was a card with ultra-thin steel sheet inside a peeled card, adhered with an extremely fine layer of silicone glue. Not very flexible but totally attracted to a magnet! Possibilities....!
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Hi John,

I notice with soaking, the remaining layers are even. One is not thicker than the other. I guess the glue soaks away.

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Duke,

Are you soaking the cards in just plain water?  or something else?  How long?  any specific temperature that works better?  Once soaked, what method do you use to pull the layers apart?
Are there any issues with the card wrinkling when reassembling the specific gimmick or card?  Do you use a press to help them stick again?  Waiting until they are fully dry?  or assemble when still wet?

Just curious,

Tom

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Hi Tom,
All good questions.

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Duke,

Are you soaking the cards in just plain water?  
   Yes, Haven't thought to try anything else.

How long? 
   3+ minutes or when I remember to come back to the cup!

any specific temperature that works better? 
   I haven't used anything except "cold" tap water, but this month in Arizona it is lukewarm!

Once soaked, what method do you use to pull the layers apart?
   No Method. It is so easy. They just fall apart.

Are there any issues with the card wrinkling when reassembling the specific gimmick or card?
   Not so far. A little bit wavy after drying, but solved with book-weights or Plexiglas press.

Do you use a press to help them stick again? 
   Yes, again, book-weights or Plexiglas press.

Waiting until they are fully dry?  or assemble when still wet?
   I assembled them only after fully dry.


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I have watched magicians dry-split cards and do it so well. After tearing thru the edges so often, and after getting great results by soaking, I won't bother with dry.

Other than time to soak and dry, I see no advantage.

Are there any other considerations?


Played around with soaking in the 70's. My problem is the finish of the cards gets ruined as opposed to dry splitting which retains the finish.
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Hi Marv,

That's the kind of experience I'm looking for. 
I'm the new kid, learning all this stuff.[smile]

I guess it depends on the final product wanted: I am spraying with Matte Krylon and am happy with the look.
With current Bicycle cards, the slick (plastic?) coating seems maintain very well after soaking.

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