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JenniferG

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Making a little stack comparison chart in my spreadsheet.  Do I have everything right so far?

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Matt G

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I'm not sure I understand why you combined Redford and Si Stebbins. Realistically, a sequence of 10 overhand shuffle runs is not going to be invisible to your audience; especially if you do it multiple times over the course of your routine. They're two different stacks, no?

In my opinion a well executed deck switch is probably better cover than shuffling into Redford from NDO / Stebbins, and of course a deck switch is stack independent. Same with the incondite sorting technique, which can be incorporated into several interesting effects.

So if you're going to count Redford / Stebbins as "the same" I think you might as well count any two stacks as the same, since it involves transitioning from one stack to another and there are always ways to do that. Of course, being derived from Stebbins makes that possible to do with a sequence of overhand shuffles with Redford and requires other techniques with other stacks, but it's always possible.
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Jennifer, I don't know if you are aware of this website:  https://www.deceptionary.com/

But since you are obviously a student of stacks and mem-decks, I think you'll find some very interesting information in it.  There are areas titled 'Information' and 'Tools' that have links to a lot of helpful stuff.  

There is, for example an Excel spreadsheet in the 'Tools' section that you might find helpful.  You might be able to add some additional stacks to it, I haven't tried.

Anyway, thought it might be of use.
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JenniferG

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Collaborating with a few others in a memory deck facebook group.  I'll update this thread as the stuff gets filled out.

The reason I included Si Stebbens with Redford is because it can be quickly and transparently be shuffled into (and from) by sequence of OHS runs; like 15 seconds and appears like normal shuffling. I do it really fast. You can talk to them while you do it, like Patrick does in Temporarily Out of Order routine.   For the Redford Stack, I do mention in parenthesis the feature is available when transformed into Si Stebbens.  The reason the Redford stack even came into existence, was ability for it to quickly and easily transform to and from Si Stebbens. It's true what you say about deck swapping, if you have another deck on you. I understand your point, thanks for sharing.   

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JenniferG

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It appears I posted this in the wrong sub-forum, it should be under Memorized Deck.
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JenniferG

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Here's an update to the chart

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Tom Kracker

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Great idea!

Here's a site that you can sue to explore stacks as well.

https://natedog.com/cards/faro.html

I know I've posted it before, but it is helpful.

That Deceptionary link that Ray posted is great!
I've been using "The Hungry Jackass" stack since 1998.  It works for what I need it to do.

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