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TheAmazingStanley

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Has anyone heard any advance feedback on the new Tally Ho Elite Edition edition? Is it the same as the Bicycle Elite Edition just with a different design? I’d just get some and see but they don’t ship until mid September. After reading enough Harry Lorayne advice I’m starting to worry less about which brand of cards I’m using, but I just love the elite bikes and Honeybees. Plus the new ones come in blue! You seem to have to know someone to get a blue deck of elite bikes.
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Has anyone heard any advance feedback on the new Tally Ho Elite Edition edition? Is it the same as the Bicycle Elite Edition just with a different design? I’d just get some and see but they don’t ship until mid September. After reading enough Harry Lorayne advice I’m starting to worry less about which brand of cards I’m using, but I just love the elite bikes and Honeybees. Plus the new ones come in blue! You seem to have to know someone to get a blue deck of elite bikes.


From reading the ad copy it is the same as the Bicycle Rider Back Elite.  So if you like those, you'll like these.


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Yeah so it sounds. The funny thing is if you blindfolded me I probably couldn’t tell anyway 😑
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Yeah so it sounds. The funny thing is if you blindfolded me I probably couldn’t tell anyway 😑


In addition to the different stock, part of the appeal is you get a couple of gaff cards included in the pack.  You can collect a bunch of those to use in various effects where you need blank facers.

And the fact they are traditionally cut makes them desirable.  
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I really like the look of the tally ho cards, and being on USPC elite stock is sure nice.  I'll order them once they become available.  Would be nice to use once and a while. 
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I always get excited when the next great deck of cards is released, grudgingly spend the cash, use the new deck (or not,) and then go right back to Bicycle and Bee.  You can buy them everywhere and they are generally consistent.  I have a deck of Bees right now that almost Table Faro themselves.  I do love the Tally Ho backs and would gladly use them if they were commercially distributed.
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I really like the look of the tally ho cards, and being on USPC elite stock is sure nice.  I'll order them once they become available.  Would be nice to use once and a while. 


Some of the benefits of being "Elite" stock might not be felt initially.  Perhaps they allow the cards to remain "fresh" longer?  

The "Elite" stock is different from what it started out as.  When the Richard Turner Bikes came out, they were special because they were Bicycle Rider Backs printed on Bee stock, which was thicker.  Richard wanted to be able to offer the magic community a deck that behaved like Bees, but had borders and look like normal Bikes.  They also had the traditional cut, which helps with tabled faros, something he is a master at.

The current "Elite" stock is crushed, taking a thicker paper and squeezing it down, making it denser.  This extra density will affect the durability of the card.  

I have never handled the specific deck you are referring to, but maybe give them a week or so and see if they seem to remain fresher.

Everybody has different likes and dislikes when it comes to cards.  One person's perfect brand might be hated by another.  It is also true that some people have better perception and can feel subtle nuances and appreciate them.

It has been reported that Richard Turner can identify certain batches of the same card.  For example, there was supposedly one batch made long ago that to him represented the "perfect" card, or at least way better in all respects than any other from the same brand.
it was a run of Bee cards.  They say he can handle dozens of packs and when you hand him a deck from that batch number, he can tell almost immediately.  Anyone else would say, yep, they're cards.
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I've only seen the circle back in the ads. I was always partial to the fan back. I'm wondering if they will be available?
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I've only seen the circle back in the ads. I was always partial to the fan back. I'm wondering if they will be available?


I doubt it, unless there is overwhelming demand.
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Just to wrap this up, the Fan Back is coming, but after the initial release of the Circle Back on 9/15, I believe.
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I always get excited when the next great deck of cards is released, grudgingly spend the cash, use the new deck (or not,) and then go right back to Bicycle and Bee.  You can buy them everywhere and they are generally consistent.  I have a deck of Bees right now that almost Table Faro themselves.  I do love the Tally Ho backs and would gladly use them if they were commercially distributed.


The run of the mill Standards are as good cards as you’ll ever need if you ask me. But the Elites have that extra little something that makes them perfect for me. YYMV. And the kicker is they only cost a few cents more than Standards. Now that’s a deal.

I’m another fan of the Tally Ho circle design so this looks cool but I see they’re more expensive. So I’ll wait til they’re not the newest thing then maybe the price will go down. And I just saw the blue Bicycles are back in stock! Time to snag a brick while I can.

I view the broader “custom playing card” market with mixed feelings. I do see playing cards as things of beauty in and of themselves, and some stuff out there is breathtaking. But 20, 30 dollars for a deck of playing cards? I see the exotic advertising that looks like they’re selling Maseratis and see terms like “luxury playing cards” and I get the feeling they’re trying to take me for a ride. It’s a deck of cards.

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