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culldavid

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Hello everybody,
Does anybody do the Vernon ball and cone routine from the Dai Vernon book of magic.It is such a lovely trick.Do you have any thoughts on it you can share,especially regarding the ending.Thanks,and here is a video of Michael Perovich performing it.



Also,Dai Vernon himself performing part of it.

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HexTheDoombunny

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I do play with it from time to time. I've always felt the Vernon routine went on too long. There's a bit of unnecessary repetition in the effects presented. I've been trying to find ways to increase impact while tightening up the time involved. So far I've not been happy with any iteration.

I think, in that same vein, it's why I play with cups and balls so much. I love the cone and ball, cups and balls, chop cup, etc, CONCEPT, but I'm rarely happy with the presentation.

Still, it is a great way to keep the hands limber, and tooling around with the props is a good boredom killer.

How about you? Any interest or ideas you'd care to bounce around?
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culldavid

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i have always done a  chop cup type routine using just a teacup and tomato,or similar.Have used it in restaraunts ect,even the Vernon 3 ball trick i use everyday obects,even brussel sprouts,so now these type of tricks can be done impromptu.In the same way i have been 
developing a routine with the cone and ball,but not using the cone,but a cofee cup/tea cup,and large fruit and veg.instead of a billiard ball.also a large serviette or handkerchief. 
The ball and cone routines i have seen,although very lovely and magical to watch ,seem to lack an ending so i have also added a climax,which hopefully comes as a big surprise.  
I seem to remember reading somewhere  that Dai Vernon used a salt shaker as a climax to his original routine,which i dont think is mentioned in his book of magic.

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arthur stead

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I own very nice set of balls and black leather cone especially made for Vernon’s effect.  Used to play around with the routine, but angle problems prevented me from making it a permanent part of my act.  Mind you, I’m no Vernon!

 So I put the cone away, but kept the balls and developed a very nice color changing ball routine (based on Mohammed Bey’s Egyptian Ball Mystery from Stars of Magic, with some additional touches from Vito Lupo).  Always generated lots of oohs and aahs from lay audiences as well as magicians. 


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Emerson Rodrigues

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I highly recommend this work from Brazilian Magician Ricardo Harada this book it's in Spanish but is a wealth of knowledge on the subject!

https://www.amazon.es/Escamoteur-estudio-sobre-Cono-Bola/dp/1533138907/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473293939&sr=8-1&keywords=escamoteur

And here you can see a part of his act with the Cone and Ball:

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