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Taylor74

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Hi Guys,

Anyone here with a pack of these that can help me out.  I bought  deck a couple of weeks ago and, annoyingly, the site that explains the marking system is now closed down.  Tried everythng I can think of.

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Hi Guys,

Anyone here with a pack of these that can help me out.  I bought  deck a couple of weeks ago and, annoyingly, the site that explains the marking system is now closed down.  Tried everythng I can think of.

Baz


I don't, but most packs marked like those can be checked by the "Riffle Test". Square them up and slowly riffle, looking closely at the backs. You should notice "movement" on the backs, where parts seemingly move around. Once you see the area where they are marked you should be able to lay out known cards and compare back-and-forth to understand the system. I also suggest you report the down video. Sometimes they are unaware. Reach out to whomever you bought them from.
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Thanks RayJ.  I've tried the riffle test to no avail.  Think it's something more than that.  I'll keep searching. As a stand alone deck, it's great but just intrigued more than anything about the marks.

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Thanks RayJ.  I've tried the riffle test to no avail.  Think it's something more than that.  I'll keep searching. As a stand alone deck, it's great but just intrigued more than anything about the marks.

Baz


Post a pic of a few cards. I will help.
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If it has a criss-cross pattern, it may be that the marking system is at the edge where the crosshatching ends. There are also a couple of decks with very large marks that are sort of smeared into the back pattern.

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There was a past subject about marked cards. Someone, I can't remember who, did a very thorough report on marked cards. Maybe your question is answered in there if anyone can remember where to find it.

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There was a past subject about marked cards. Someone, I can't remember who, did a very thorough report on marked cards. Maybe your question is answered in there if anyone can remember where to find it.

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If you mean Endersgame, it won't help.

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I typed this on my iPad and realized it sounded a little terse.  I was just trying to be brief.  What I meant was that if you are referring to the nice post(s) Endersgame made about marked cards, it won't really help to ascertain the marks on this particular deck.
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Which cards are these two? Just want to make sure they aren’t the jokers.
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Forgotten which cards these are.  Definitely not the Jokers though.  
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I suspect they may be edge readers.  I tried to find some info online and one reviewer said he didn't know how the marking system worked and then he spread them a bit and said, oh, I think they are edge marked.

Again, I would reach out to whomever they were purchased from.  I find it poor form to not at least have a card with some basic key to the marks within the deck.  Relying on a video is fraught with limitations.
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This is one of the best pics I could find that shows how edge readers work.  Check your pack and see if it resembles this condition along the edges.

Edit:  Talk about the perfect deck for 'The Automatic Deck' trick!
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Steve Beam had a cool idea for edge marking on the fly in an early publication. You use a borrowed shuffled deck and put the work in by dragging your thumbnail diagonally across the long edge, creating a line that you can see. The deck is spread for a selection as you look away the selection is returned at a different place and the deck is squared up. Since the selection has moved, the mark is no longer on the original line and can be seen from the side, allowing you to locate the card. Once the deck is shuffled, the line disappears. 

I've never tried this and there are probably details I'm not describing here that might make a difference i.e. can the specs see the line etc. 

Just had my memory jogged by the edge marking in RayJ's photo. 

Try combining that edge marked deck with Ken Krenzel's card case that's used in his ACAAN. That case gives you the full view of the side of the deck and the ability to riffle down the corner with your thumb to the needed card....

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After a few more 'riffle tests' and looking REALLY carefully.  I've finally got it sussed. Extremely subtle block out work.  Thanks for your help guys. 
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After a few more 'riffle tests' and looking REALLY carefully.  I've finally got it sussed. Extremely subtle block out work.  Thanks for your help guys. 


Is it easy to see, or do you have to be strain your eyes to see the marks?

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Not easy to see at all Peter.  From across the table...not a chance.  Nice cards though.
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Hi Taylor. I bought a deck of these because I have an obsession with marked decks and was curious about 'em. I am able to determine the values no problem, but I can't for the life of me figure out how the suits are different! I'm staring at the 4 Aces next to each other, and can't figure out anything different about them! Any help would be really appreciated!
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Sent you a PM Matt. Hope it helps.


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