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Hello everyone!  One classic card routine that I've always enjoyed is Paul Curry's "Out of This World".   Early on I discovered Harry Lorayne's fantastic version "Out of This Universe", and I'm also familiar with "Out of This Galaxy" by Paul Harris.  I know Bannon has a shorter version using a limited number of cards, and I'm sure there are countless variations of this great effect.  I'm wondering if anyone knows of a DEDICATED COLLECTION of all (or many) of these versions in a single publication - I'd love to study the different applications and "twists" of the basic working principle and plot.  If anyone can turn me onto something, please let me know.  In the meantime, I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy these days - thank goodness for magic to keep us "normally crazy" guys sane! - johnny
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Johnny, I don't know of any OOTW omnibus, but at least conjuring archive.com has a pretty good list of variants and related moves. I see my inspiration, Ernie Heldman is listed with a clean-up move.

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/search?keyword=Out+of+this+world
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        Interesting, and ego feeding:   When Lou Tannen published my book, CLOSE-UP CARD MAGIC, he received a letter saying "I'd like to build a cathedral where Harry Lorayne walks - for Out Of This Universe."    Lou started to use the letter in his ads for the book. Gotta' assume that helped sell a few copies.  
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There is a book available - "Best Of All Worlds".



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https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/card-magic/best-of-all-worlds/
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Thanks everyone -  Jim and Ray, your posts are very helpful and I’ll definitely look for the book you‘ve mentioned - that is exactly the type of publication I’m interested in.  Harry, I can see how your OOTU impressed Lou Tannen, especially with the extremely convincing shuffling process (it couldn’t possibly be any more fair)!  Thanks for sharing that story with us! - johnny
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Johnny, I've taken to using Larry Haas's version, called My Way Out of This World, and found in Teaching Magic, a book he wrote with Eugene Burger and published after Eugene's death. It's not too far from Harry's version, but uses a neat little conceit, apparently from Gary Ouellet. Glad to run it by you sometime if you like. Nothing fancy, but I like the handling.

Funny, I recently went on my own grail hunt for as many versions of Card Warp as I could track down. The Conjuring Archive was a big help.

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Anthony - There's a book called "The Card Warp Tour" by Jeff Pierce. One of my CW variations is in there.

Also, I had an item in Power Plays (2006) titled "Best of All Worlds." It has a bit of Out of This Universe and Galaxy in it. It's a two person version. There's a bit of complexity there. I'll have to pull the book out to recall it. 

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Anthony - thanks for your thoughts - and you definitely have my interest - perhaps we can discuss in the near future.  This is a plot I'd really like to explore - great routines seem to foster all kinds of interesting variants.  I've been using Lorayne's OOTU and it always gets very strong reactions, but with so much "down" time lately I thought it would be fun to read through other approaches to the OOTW theme.  One thing about the pursuit of magic - it's a never-ending road! - johnny
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Johnny, Penguin has the Best of All Worlds book available here... I bought it several years ago and it is a good book but it does NOT contain ALL the OOTW versions, just the ones the authors liked or could get their hands on. It was out of print for a while and now you can get it again from Penguin. VanInc does not have it in stock. Get it while you can...

https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/2138

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Thank you Luigimar - yes, I will be picking up this book soon!  Mike - I have your PowerPlays (PDF) and remember the routine from the old TMF book club days - thanks so much for reminding me about it - it's on my reading list for tonight!
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I would be interested to know how people present the effect?
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I would be interested to know how people present the effect?


I prefer with a deck shuffled by a spectator.  Lay down a red and a black face up, and then show spectators one card at a time with the backs towards them.  Have them decide which pile to put each card on.  I let them do roughly about 8 to 10 cards on each pile.

Next, place another red and black card face up, but on the opposite piles.  Have spectator take the deck themselves and deal cards face down into any pile.  Again, stop them after 8 - 10 cards on each pile.  

Recap and build up what has taken place, then do the reveal on pile 1, followed by pile 2 (with the special twist of the hand).  Spread the remainder of the cards face up to emphasize that what has happened was from a deck that they themselves had shuffled.


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Technically speaking (without any of the patter):

I prefer with a deck shuffled by a spectator.  Lay down a red and a black face up, and then show spectators one card at a time with the backs towards them.  Have them decide which pile to put each card on.  I let them do roughly about 8 to 10 cards on each pile.

Next, place another red and black card face up, but on the opposite piles.  Have spectator take the deck themselves and deal cards face down into any pile.  Again, stop them after 8 - 10 cards on each pile.  

Recap and build up what has taken place, then do the reveal on pile 1, followed by pile 2 (with the special twist of the hand).  Spread the remainder of the cards face up to emphasize that what has happened was from a deck that they themselves had shuffled.


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Johnny, I don't know how you feel about DVD's but in addition to the book recommended by Luis, I noticed that the World's Greatest Magic Series has a volume dedicated to OOTW.

The description for it can be found here. While certainly not as comprehensive as the book recommended by Luis, it does show OOTW variations as performed by Michael Ammar, Steve Draun, David Regal, Falkenstein & Willard and Eugene Burger which may be interesting to watch.

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Johnny checkout;
Bruce Bernstein’s Separation Anxiety
Brad Henderson’s Out of this Blah, blah, blah
Martin Gardner’s Another Out of this World.

Also check out Luke Jermay’s thoughts on presentation for his remarkable OOTW in this free download from Vanishing Inc
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/card-magic-downloads/summer-free-download/
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        Interesting, and ego feeding:   When Lou Tannen published my book, CLOSE-UP CARD MAGIC, he received a letter saying "I'd like to build a cathedral where Harry Lorayne walks - for Out Of This Universe."    Lou started to use the letter in his ads for the book. Gotta' assume that helped sell a few copies.  


Harry, I love your Out of This Universe but its not really an OOTW effect as it's about how they're shuffles miraculously separated the colors, as opposed to their decisions separating it. 

My favorite OOTW version is Galaxy by Paul Harris, & Brand New World by Michael Murray. Lorayne's Impromptu OOTW is phenomenal too. 
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Thanks everyone for the great posts and GREAT leads - I'll be sure to research all of them and you've all saved me loads of time!  Gareth, thanks for the link -- I've just downloaded the dvd - although Jeremy does not explain his handling of the routine, he apparently shares some invaluable performance considerations and I'm sure it will be beneficial.  Wayne - I am traditionally a "book guy" but like everyone, I've acquired more than a few dvd's (!) and I'll check it out!   Arthur - I think your presentation addresses one of the "perhaps" downsides to the routine, as OOTW typically does not fall within the "two minute threshold" (your handling, like Bannon's, or Galaxy, seems to speed things up considerably).  Again, thanks everyone for your advice - it is VERY much appreciated! - johnny
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Over the years I've probably read dozens of OOTW-type effects as I'm sure most of you have as well.  To me, you can sort of break them down into categories.  

1.  Begins with stack vs. begins with shuffled pack
2.  Allows for the deck to be shuffled by a spectator vs. cannot be shuffled by spectator
3.  Entire pack or 1/2 pack is handed to spectator vs. a card or a pair of cards are given to spectator at a time
4.  Trick is done with full deck vs. effect is done with only 1/2 of the deck
5.  Trick has built-in "misses" vs. perfection
6.  Gaffed cards are used vs. regular deck

There are obviously other distinctions you can draw to compare/contrast the effects.  This is just a start.

I think it helps the process to categorize things.  You can then pick and choose which features you believe are important to you.  For example, if you insist on it being FASDIU, then many versions are immediately out of the picture.
Same goes with allowing the spectator to shuffle.  Same goes for 1/2 deck.

So when I sit and ponder these sorts of things, I imagine what I'd like the effect to look like and then I begin building it with those choices in mind.  

It can be a fun exercise.
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I believe that "Galaxy" should be attributed to Wyman Jones. It appeared in Paul Harris' book and also in Magic Manuscript long ago if memory serves. Wyman's idea eliminates the need to switch piles mid dealing.

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I do an OOTW version with the cards FACE UP (“Back to the Launching Pad”)

I didn’t think I could top Harry’s version or the UF Grant version (another good one) so I flipped the switch to try something a bit different.

It’s in my book of the same name (“Back to the Lsunching Pad”) and was featured in the Big Blind Media version called “Galaxian” ( Steven Tucker has a similar idea, but mine is easier and more deceptive, in my humble opinion).

By the way, the Brent Geris book is a great read and resource if you like OOTW effects.
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Out of this Blah... is excellant
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I know I'm new here, but let me chime in and say that on the aforementioned World's Greatest Magic OOTW DVD, I'm particularly fond of David Regal's version. I also like the kicker ending in the 1//2 deck version Michael Ammar teaches on his ETMCM series. It's on volume 9.
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What I have tried is a version that I learned from a Jon Tremaine VHS.

This presentation is ideal for greater groups, say thirty people, at least I have tried it in that environment. The presentation is some kind of guessing game, you remove several cards and say that e.g. two are black...and someone of the audience has the choice of what he/she thinks are the two black cards etc. You can show from time to time his/her misses or success and a "control spectator" sorts the rest of the cards as he/she wants...you know the result..
I´m finding this very entertaining for a bigger group, you can involve almost all of your spectators, you can play with them (success/faults) and you have an spectator who represents them all by doing the last sorting actions...

I hope you get the idea,...and thank you for pointing the way into the David Regal direction...can´t remember that version and will happily look it up!


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Harry’s point is well taken.
Look, I love the Brent Geris book and enjoy reading about and playing with all these different versions of OOTW. But at the end of the day, there are only three versions I would actually perform: Harry’s “Out of this Universe,” UF Grant’s “Nu Way Out of this World“ and my “Back to the Launching Pad.”
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I have used this presentation for over 30 years. It was based on a story I heard somewhere. It's a bit long, but I cannot tell you how many times I've been asked to do "The Churchill Card Trick" by people who have seen it. If you're a story teller, this one is for you. I've done it for anywhere from a few people to 20. I've kept this presentation to myself until now. I hope others will find it useful.

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Folks, I'm going to show you a card trick that has an actual history.

Decades ago, in the midst of WWII, England was constantly under attack from Blitzkrieg-- intense bombing from the Nazis. Often times this meant that decisions and the people who make them had to operate in underground bunkers. And that's where this happened. Winston Churchill was amidst some very dark days in one of those command bunkers. He was so stressed that he was not himself. Usually he was decisive, sharp and had good spirits despite the situation. The burden of command was getting to him.

Fortunately one of his staff was a magician in civilian life-- a man by the name of Charles Jordan. Jordan thought he might distract Churchill for a few minutes with a card trick. He asked, Churchill sighed and gruffly gave Jordan his attention. The trick intrigued Churchill. He became alert and asked to see it again. Jordan obliged. Churchill waved away his Chief of operations who had papers to sign and asked to see the trick a third time. In fact, over the next 40 minutes, Churchill watched that trick seven times and still couldn't figure it out, much to the distress of his commanders as there were important decisions to be made. Finally, Churchill asked to see it one more time. Then, giving up, he took a deep breath and went back to business as usual.

So I present now, the trick that actually put World War II on hold for an entire hour!


Then the trick is done with expositional patter and I conclude with:

And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is the card trick that stumped Churchill and actually put WWII on hold!

Since I don't work a script from rote, the patter varies a little each time, but I have found that prefacing the trick with this story generates a good bit of interest and the tension builds much easier through the dealing of the cards. I do not know the specific version of the trick that I use but I'm sure it's one of the more common ones.
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ooooh, Gracie...
not really attractive presentation for a german audience...hihi...just kidding ...I really love Churchill by the way.....but what I consider a problem in this modern times is to mention the name of Paul Curry because of the very quick access to youtube and the whole internet they will find very quickly the most famous trick...ootw...and believe me not only kids will do the research, also well paid business men because you completely fooled them...what they don´t like ...and they will find the answer also quite quickly...so my only concern is to name "Paul Curry" whose name is too closely bound to this great effect (easily found on the web...). otherwise: great and intriguing script, Gracie!

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So here are a few versions that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet:

Tony Chaudhuri's Feminine Side, which Howard Hamburg taught during his excellent TMF lecture  - it uses about 20 cards.

John Bannon's Mundo, also a 20 card version.

Barrie Richardson's Snows of Kilimanjaro, which is full deck version using two volunteers to accelerate the dealing process.
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Personally, I really like the Impromptu Out of this World found in Harry's "My Favorite Card Tricks." I like that the audience shuffles the deck and you don't use the whole thing. It works really well and is quite powerful and direct.
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ooooh, Gracie...
not really attractive presentation for a german audience...hihi...just kidding ...I really love Churchill by the way.....but what I consider a problem in this modern times is to mention the name of Paul Curry because of the very quick access to youtube and the whole internet they will find very quickly the most famous trick...ootw...and believe me not only kids will do the research, also well paid business men because you completely fooled them...what they don´t like ...and they will find the answer also quite quickly...so my only concern is to name "Paul Curry" whose name is too closely bound to this great effect (easily found on the web...). otherwise: great and intriguing script, Gracie!


Thank you my friend!

Two things:

First, you're absolutely right. I developed this presentation while the internet was in it's infancy stage. I'm not even sure if AOL was around at that time. Strangely enough I can't remember ever having used the actual title of the trick in my presentations. I have no idea of why I used it in the written version above. Probably because the stories I often use are fluid. They're not written in stone.

Through the magic of the internet, I edited the post and removed Curry's name and substituted Charles Jordan. That'll still leave a trail to magic, but shouldn't lead people to the actual trick. I also took the giveaway out of the tag line.

Second-- I promise never to use this presentation in Germany. [biggrin]
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I have a simple variation that I like to perform, it's in the Secret Sessions  https://www.themagiciansforum.com/post/out-of-this-and-shufflebored-8933295  Work it out with Rudy if you don't have the password yet, or wait until you get the requisite post count.  I think it's similar to one of Harry Lorayne's versions, but it's different because I'm selecting the specific cards that I would need for the next routine.

The main point of this version is to pick the cards that you would need for doing Aronson's "Shuffle Bored Random-Sample".  So it's using slightly less than half the deck (saves on time), and it can be done with a completely shuffled deck.  There's only one slight imperfection/miss (as Ray mentioned above, you have to choose if it's right for you).  The only part you have to really practice to get speed is finding the right cards.  Of course, I usually do this just covering by talking with the spectators.

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I'd like to give a very special thanks to all of you for the great responses to my original post - you are all EXTREMELY helpful and I've already started going through many of your suggestions.  Obviously there's no "BEST VERSION" of anything, but there's always a few interesting "twists" that can be found in all of these resources.  Gracie - thanks for reminding us that a solid introductory script (like yours), even though adding time to this typically longer routine, can actually work FOR you and make the presentation stronger (I did not see mention of Curry in your script, but Axel's point is well taken -- I've heard of magician's renaming items they post on YouTube for that very reason).   

Based on your suggestions, I think I'll be busy for the next year or two!  Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to give me a few clear directions to follow - it's really amazing that TMF has consistently maintained it's incredibly positive and helpful atmosphere, thanks to everyone in this online community! - johnny
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I was about three years when I first stumbled over the Churchill yarn in “Everybody’s Book Of Magic” by Will Dexter. Being so young I was very taken with it, but never used it. The story I mean.

Anyway, as far as I recall, the magician in question was a professional called Harry Green. He’d been hired to to lighten the proceedings during one of Churchill’s War Cabinet meetings. The story goes that Churchill was so taken with OOTW that he requested a repeat, then another and onward until he’d seen it six times.

From time to time, during my History Of Mystery Gabathon for layfolk I have been asked about the story and make some attempt to perform the trick. I say “some attempt” because the groups are usually about 50 people, so it has its visibility difficulties. These are mitigated somewhat because it’s a request.
As a matter of interest it was during the Blitz. Blitzkrieg is something else equally disagreeable.  [smile]

I don’t have Paul Curry’s “Magicians Magic” anymore, but if memory serves the Churchill story is in there.

Just checked. In my copy of “Best Of All Worlds” it’s on page 19. And it is Harry Green. I say “my copy” because I have the the original edition The reprint has extra contributions.

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I was about three years when I first stumbled over the Churchill yarn in “Everybody’s Book Of Magic” by Will Dexter. Being so young I was very taken with it, but never used it. The story I mean.



I KNEW I read that story somewhere. Thanks so much for telling me where to find it. It wasn't so much of "where can I find this" as it was "Did I really read this"? I must have read it in "Magicians Magic" because I know I owned that book. I remember it. T0 the best of my knowledge I never had the Dexter book or Best of All Worlds.

Does it suggest using the story as a presentation?

Again, thanks so much!

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I had the same reaction, Gracie!  KNEW I'd read the story somewhere, sometime, but couldn't remember where or when.

Thanks for clarifying, Alan!

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Hello everyone!  One classic card routine that I've always enjoyed is Paul Curry's "Out of This World".   Early on I discovered Harry Lorayne's fantastic version "Out of This Universe", and I'm also familiar with "Out of This Galaxy" by Paul Harris.  I know Bannon has a shorter version using a limited number of cards, and I'm sure there are countless variations of this great effect.  I'm wondering if anyone knows of a DEDICATED COLLECTION of all (or many) of these versions in a single publication - I'd love to study the different applications and "twists" of the basic working principle and plot.  If anyone can turn me onto something, please let me know.  In the meantime, I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy these days - thank goodness for magic to keep us "normally crazy" guys sane! - johnny


Hi Johnny

Here is my contribution to the OOTW discussion.  I hope that it helps in your quest. 

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"Parallel Worlds" uses only 18 cards, which makes this effect a less time consuming, scaled down version of the original "Out of This World" by Paul Curry. I find it perfect to perform when your not quite sure if the audience's attention span will warrant performing a full deck version. Because "Parallel Worlds" is based upon an entirely different method, you are safe in following it up later on with your favorite full deck version.

I have found that by using JUMBO cards instead of regular size that the effect plays even bigger visually (not pun intended) as they cover the entire tabletop with a dramatic climax. Using Jumbo Cards does not impair the handling and it also rules out the possibility of using sleight of hand for the spectators.

There has been many parallel versions of "Out of This World" created since the Paul Curry original and I think that once you perform "Parallel Worlds", another out of this world experience will be added to your performing repertoire.


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Nice. I like that Michael. Initially I felt some similarities with Nick Trost's, Red or Black - Which?, but your version is much different and very entertaining. Thanks for sharing!

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I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but there is a great version by Stephen Leathwaite on his Spiral Principle DVD. It was an approach that I haven't seen before that uses two spectators who take turns dealing cards into two piles on the table. One is made up of cards that they want and the other are their discards.


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Nice. I like that Michael. Initially I felt some similarities with Nick Trost's, Red or Black - Which?, but your version is much different and very entertaining. Thanks for sharing!

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Thank you for your comment Anthony.  Now i'm off on a quest to look up Red or black by Nick Trost.

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Rudy, I remember distinctly being bothered that Lethwaite’s OOTW owed a LOT to John Kennedy and the method he published in Genii (1989). Kennedy was uncredited   (there was a second trick in this dvd that did credit David Regal. The same method is also used by Roberto Giobbi in Card College Light. Can’t remember the name of the trick, but it is the second or third trick in the book. Giobbi’s presentation is well thought out and constructed
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Rudy, I remember distinctly being bothered that Lethwaite’s OOTW owed a LOT to John Kennedy and the method he published in Genii (1989). Kennedy was uncredited   (there was a second trick in this dvd that did credit David Regal. The same method is also used by Roberto Giobbi in Card College Light. Can’t remember the name of the trick, but it is the second or third trick in the book. Giobbi’s presentation is well thought out and constructed


Thanks for that info, Mike. I had never seen it before but thought it was a unique approach.

Unfortunate that they didn't credit properly.

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Hello again - Just wanted to thank you all for the great posts - I was hoping I'd receive maybe one or two responses to my initial post, and ALL of your information is extremely helpful for me, saving a great deal of time.  Mike Boden - thanks for your willingness to share your routine (and others) with everyone here on TMF - it is very much appreciated (and Parallel Worlds looked great - very strong stuff)!  Thanks again everyone - johnny
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I KNEW I read that story somewhere. Thanks so much for telling me where to find it. It wasn't so much of "where can I find this" as it was "Did I really read this"? I must have read it in "Magicians Magic" because I know I owned that book. I remember it. T0 the best of my knowledge I never had the Dexter book or Best of All Worlds.

Does it suggest using the story as a presentation?

Again, thanks so much!

Gracie



Not sure which book you’re referring to here, Grace, but it doesn’t really matter. The answer is “No” in both cases.

This is the Will Dexter book.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=everybody%27s+book+of+magic+will+dexter&authuser=1&sxsrf=ALeKk00QJXhn83EBxt0dXabTlSjVs56Kog:1589132331438&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=GOw01V7BAyVw3M%253A%252CoPAT0ZD_a6hJdM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRBVoKE3exrXj4wBwWB4boS2sJ3rw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJ8Pag66npAhV8REEAHdA9BQ8Q9QEwCHoECAoQGg#imgrc=GOw01V7BAyVw3M:


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Everybodys-book-magic-William-Dexter/dp/B0000CJI2C

 

I was enthralled by the stories of Magic and Magician. It’s ideal for naïve little lads in short trousers who have yet to learn that an Okito Box doesn’t actually make the coin pass through the hand.

Actually it isn’t. Kids today know everything and aren’t interested in this stuff. They do miss out. They go straight from “Blimey” to Youtube to “Oh yeah. Next”.

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I  posted a Perverse Magic presentation of Out Of this World (together with a suggested effect to precede it as a set up) on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum on March 1, 2006 (and this appears on page 71 of the book "Gerald Deutsch's Perverse Magic: The First Sixteen Years".)
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Branching off-topic but following up on the delights of learning about magicians and magic of days gone by ...

"Professor Solomon" is an author of self-published, free ebooks on a variety of topics such as "Japan in a Nutshell" and "How to Find Lost Objects".   More germane to this forum are his three books titled "Lives of the Conjurers"  Vols 1, 2 and 3

They present light-hearted, engagingly-written and easily-digested synoptic biographies of dozens of magicians throughout the ages.  They are illustrated with cartoon-like drawings that make them look like children's books - but I don't think they are intended for anyone other than magicians.  They are a quick, pleasant read with a satisfying quantity of intriguing historical information.

http://www.professorsolomon.com/books.html
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Funnily enough in all my years of performing card magic I've chosen to avoid OOTW... but I do remember reading a prediction version in The Commercial Magic of JC Wagner.... On a few occasions my grandfather told me about the greatest card trick he'd ever seen, from his description I'd say it was Harry's Out of this Universe - and if I ever choose to perform a version it will definitely be Harry Lorayne's!
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I do an OOTW version with the cards FACE UP (“Back to the Launching Pad”)

I didn’t think I could top Harry’s version or the UF Grant version (another good one) so I flipped the switch to try something a bit different.

It’s in my book of the same name (“Back to the Launching Pad”) and was featured in the Big Blind Media version called “Galaxian” ( Steven Tucker has a similar idea, but mine is easier and more deceptive, in my humble opinion).

I just want to put in a plug for Michael's very interesting approach to the classic OOTW trick with "Back to the Launching Pad", which I really enjoyed.  Doing it with the cards face up allows for a very different presentation, and can produce a surprise even for magicians.

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See Liam Montier perform the face-up Galaxian routine here:


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Also check out Luke Jermay’s thoughts on presentation for his remarkable OOTW in this free download from Vanishing Inc
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/card-magic-downloads/summer-free-download/

My favourite thing of Jermay's presentation is his idea of speeding up the dealing process. 
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