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chris w

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My two-year anniversary of joining The Magician's Forum has me in a bit of a reflective mood.

(Okay, fine. I'm usually in a reflective mood. But this has exacerbated the condition.)

I also recently rediscovered my old Cafe account, inactive some 17 years, and looked over posts by a much younger me. I saw in my posts then, as I still sometimes see in my posts now, a tendency to feel more comfortable answering than asking questions. I like to know things and am less enthusiastic about revealing all the ways in which I feel stupid.

In my observation, there are also those among this forum's membership who are more comfortable imparting wisdom than seeking advice. Then there are others (brave, admirable souls) who routinely ask questions to which they don't have an answer, and gracefully receive input.

Teaching requires knowledge (and, ideally, tact) whereas learning requires openness and vulnerability. Openness and vulnerability aren't everyone's strong suit.

So, to anyone who cares to consider:

What is the most important thing you have learned at The Magician's Forum?

Or, if you're one for whom the asking comes more naturally than the being confident in your own knowledge, what is the most important thing you have taught?

Basically, I'm asking you to answer whichever of those questions is harder for you. [tounge2]
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This forum has an amazing mix of magicians. What I have learnt is difficult to put my finger on, but I guess it would be collaboration is a powerful tool. And what I have taught is creative and innovative thinking, mostly through PMs with various members of this forum over the years.

In the future I would like to participate in some of the Saturday sessions as I think that would be fun and informative.

TMF is without a doubt the friendliest magic forum that I've ever had the pleasure of being a part of.
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What a great question and I doubt I'd be able to narrow it down to one answer. So here's a few things, mostly all related.

1. A forum can exist where people get along. I was beginning to doubt it.
2. I need to control my enthusiasm/passion as it is sometimes misunderstood.
3. It is as good if not better to help someone as it is to benefit yourself.
4. Magic is alive and well.
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The most important thing I have learned is to pay close attention to relative newcomers to the art, as they are often grappling with the same issues and questions we all do, but in a more open, less prideful way than is the tendency of those who have been around a while and think they do (or ought to) know things. 

The unindoctrinated crack things open for discussion. As a result, a lot can be learned from them.
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I've had my vigor reinvigorated (you can only imagine how that feels). I love the energy, compassion, and support from all. I've also learned about some books I might not otherwise have discovered. 
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TMF has been a tremendous resource for me thanks to all the extremely generous advice and support from members like RayJ, Anthony Vinson, Mike Powers, and many others.

It would have taken me many, many more years to reach the level I'm at without the help of everyone here.  Thank you Rudy for starting this forum (and if there is anyone else, please forgive me for not mentioning your name)!

I'm overwhelmed by how much everyone gives to this art and haven't forgotten how welcoming, supportive and respectful everyone was when I joined this forum as an absolute beginner.

Thankfully, TMF is nothing like many other social media sites, which is why it's the only social media site in which I participate.

-Buffalo
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I've learned i have a lot to learn, in this is a great place for that. It is fun to learn here. 
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I'm still a "baby" here, but if I had to say what's the most important thing I've learnt in TMF (at the moment) is the following:

To be a (good) magician it is not necessary to be a professional.
For very long time I had been obsessed with considering that to be a "real" magician it was necesary to become a professional.
During my performances for my relatives, friends and friends of friends, they used to tend to be reluctant to consider me as a "real" magician, no matter how good the magical effect were... there always had to be a trick!
However, when they watched magicians on TV they used to consider that the magician DID magic because he WAS a magican! (whereas in my case I "did" magic only because I did a trick!)

So, my parents and siblings were "too much" used to see me as just a son and a brother to assume that I may be a magician. So, my cousins, uncles, aunts and friends were "too much" used to see me as just a cousin, a nephew or a friend, to assume that I may be a "real" magician...
So, I "ruled" myself as I never would be a "real" magician unless I became professional. That never happened; never got to be professional, however, according to my people's reactions and enjoyement, I always considered myself to be a good "fake" magician.

Thanks to this forum (to so many nice and wise magicians here), nowadays I think that my magic performances weren't fake because of not being a professional, since Magic is always Magic as long as you perform it with passion... even as a hobby.


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I learned of the camaraderie of like minded people who are willing to help and guide us through all of our inquiries with a giving and selfless nature. 
Thank you all of you in this Forum.
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The most important thing I've learned that there's a real community of amazing people who want to share the joy and art of magic with other people. I've learned that it's not embarrassing to be new to the art, and to ask questions, and to strive to learn, even as an adult.

Of course, I've received a lot of advice and learned a lot from the lectures, forums, etc...but nothing has been more important for me than learning about the people who have been doing this stuff for much, much longer than me. For that, I'm truly grateful.
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Hi, guys.

I've only been here a short while, but the most important thing I've learned so far, which echoes many of the other sentiments, is that there can be a great magic community online where people are positive and share openly and do not condemn or criticise. TMF is that place. I hope to learn much more as I spend time here, but that is my main takeaway at the moment.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Socrates
TMF is without a doubt the friendliest magic forum that I've ever had the pleasure of being a part of.


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I've only been here a short while, but the most important thing I've learned so far, which echoes many of the other sentiments, is that there can be a great magic community online where people are positive and share openly and do not condemn or criticise. TMF is that place.

I'd echo those sentiments.

There's been one exception that concerned me (when someone was shut down and silenced for expressing concerns about profanity). 

But unlike many other forums where there's a lot of negativity, immaturity, and name-calling, the folks here at TMF tend to be articulate, intelligent, helpful, and polite - qualities you rarely find together online in such abundance as you do here.

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Sometimes I don’t sleep well. So when it’s 3am in the morning ‘here’, I know there’s always someone ready to have a chat with about a subject I love. 
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I'd echo those sentiments.

There's been one exception that concerned me (when someone was shut down and silenced for expressing concerns about profanity). 

But unlike many other forums where there's a lot of negativity, immaturity, and name-calling, the folks here at TMF tend to be articulate, intelligent, helpful, and polite - qualities you rarely find together online in such abundance as you do here.


Endersgame, you are right about this forum being a rare find. 

However, people are only human and sometimes we can get a little "wound up".
I know that I am guilty of it.

Rudy and the moderators have the experience to know when a topic is entering the "danger zone" and they try to preempt it.  They were very patient with the discussion regarding The Jerkx, but it reached a point where it just had to be reigned in.

I'm committed to doing my own "policing" and going forward, I'll be mindful of my own predilections.  

As for yourself, you have made some wonderful contributions to this site.  Your coverage of how playing cards are made and various related topics are a great primer for beginners and experts alike.
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I have learned that as compared to many practitioners of the Art, I will never be as good as I would like to be. However, because of the encouragement I see towards everyone on here, I am certainly not going to stop trying to improve!

Also, as others have pointed out, positive discourse CAN exist and thrive in an online forum. Amazing , and a testament to all the people involved.

A nice sum-up from Shakespeare seems appropriate here: "Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none"

Cheers, and thanks, all!

Sean
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